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Seems absurd to say birthright applies to children of illegals, travelers

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I m...
Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building
  07/01/26
youre missing 4 women justices
Histrionic Orchestra Pit Liquid Oxygen
  07/01/26
It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad i...
Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building
  07/01/26
*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door* Good day, do y...
scarlet library wrinkle
  07/01/26
Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that ...
Jugashvili
  07/01/26
in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
Read Thomas's opinion
Jugashvili
  07/01/26
wow so you don’t have an answer?
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissent...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise La...
Richard Ames
  07/01/26
No one gives a shit about Dobbs https://www.xoxohth.com/t...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?
Richard Ames
  07/01/26
idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that t...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more g...
Free-loading faggotry heaven
  07/01/26
"we"
Cyan Temple Striped Hyena
  07/01/26
...
Coiffed people who are hurt generalized bond
  07/01/26
...
gunneratttt
  07/01/26
I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow
Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building
  07/01/26
Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move t...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
CR. Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn&rsqu...
Aquamarine principal's office
  07/01/26
Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so ...
gunneratttt
  07/01/26
They are complete cucks. Humiliating.
Aquamarine principal's office
  07/01/26
Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're ju...
gunneratttt
  07/01/26
...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/01/26
The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens&qu...
Drunken native mad cow disease
  07/01/26
you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow y...
mewling selfie
  07/01/26
It's insane and makes no sense It's also why the Biden nu...
Fucking Fuckface
  07/01/26
K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander ...
violent poppy menage
  07/01/26
I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass
Fucking Fuckface
  07/01/26
birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas ...
umber nibblets digit ratio
  07/01/26
great post
violent poppy menage
  07/01/26
Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdictio...
Disrespectful Provocative Fanboi Crackhouse
  07/01/26
and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated ...
umber nibblets digit ratio
  07/01/26
Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAI...
Shivering irate office friendly grandma
  07/01/26
...
Hateful Indigo School
  07/01/26
This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see h...
Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building
  07/01/26
I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was p...
Jugashvili
  07/01/26
isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course...
Hateful Indigo School
  07/01/26
you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.
Free-loading faggotry heaven
  07/01/26
Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But th...
Richard Ames
  07/01/26
yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutiona...
Chestnut Toaster Gay Wizard
  07/01/26
(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)
internet-worthy parlour cumskin
  07/01/26
Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s....
Blathering misanthropic lodge
  07/01/26
By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the foundin...
abusive death wish sanctuary
  07/01/26
founders?
Cyan Temple Striped Hyena
  07/01/26
Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worsh...
Blathering misanthropic lodge
  07/01/26
Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?
Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon
  07/01/26
Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point...
Richard Ames
  07/01/26
It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdictio...
Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon
  07/01/26
Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?
burgundy pea-brained cruise ship ladyboy
  07/01/26
You're right to PUSH BACK on that
Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon
  07/01/26
A lot of posters disagree apparently
Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building
  07/01/26
We can't have that many citizens
coral forum toilet seat
  07/01/26


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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building

And so on, just from a common sense perspective. What am I missing?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973163)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 8:57 AM
Author: Histrionic Orchestra Pit Liquid Oxygen

youre missing 4 women justices

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973165)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:07 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building

It seems obviously wrong and terrible and creates some bad incentives like when libs said no one with children with them would be deported

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973190)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:08 AM
Author: scarlet library wrinkle

*well-dressed young man knocks on ur door*

Good day, do you have a moment to discuss the Kalergi Plan?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973193)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:10 AM
Author: Jugashvili

Illegals are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and that is the way the amendment was drafted unfortunately.

Even Thomas basically conceded that anyone domiciled in the US was subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

Travelers is more contentious and less defensible but this is a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973196)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:23 AM
Author: mewling selfie

in what way are travelers not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973220)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:14 AM
Author: Jugashvili

Read Thomas's opinion

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973444)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: mewling selfie

wow so you don’t have an answer?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973591)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: mewling selfie

who gives a shit about some rogue MAGA judge’s dissenting opinion when the majority held that you don’t know shit about constitutional law

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973596)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:38 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Hmmm...I wonder if you said the same thing about the Wise Latina's dissent in Dobbs.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973620)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:49 PM
Author: mewling selfie

No one gives a shit about Dobbs

US abortions have fallen 28% since the Dobbs decision

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973639)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:51 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Cool so you agree with the court's decision in that case?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973644)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: mewling selfie

idgaf about abortion issue but it’s interesting that the decision was immaterial to the reality on the ground 🤷‍♂️



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973679)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:13 AM
Author: Free-loading faggotry heaven

it's always been an idealistic vision, but it was way more grounded before international travel became so trivial. the good news is we can change it at anytime. the bad news is we won't.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973203)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: Cyan Temple Striped Hyena

"we"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973261)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:12 AM
Author: Coiffed people who are hurt generalized bond



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973440)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: gunneratttt



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973271)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:32 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building

I'd vote to end it for noncitizens tomorrow

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973363)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:22 AM
Author: mewling selfie

Amend the constitution if you don’t like it. Or move to Russia.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973217)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: Aquamarine principal's office

CR.

Not only did they not try to amend it, they didn’t even go through congress. What a bunch of cucks to support so much executive power.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973230)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:50 AM
Author: gunneratttt

Not raging at Trump for not getting approval for Iran is so embarassing. Even if you supported the war you should be aghast at the executive expanding his power that way.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973274)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:09 AM
Author: Aquamarine principal's office

They are complete cucks. Humiliating.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973313)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:12 AM
Author: gunneratttt

Massie getting primaried because of it is grim. Now we're just MAGA GOPe.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973320)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:17 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973327)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:26 AM
Author: Drunken native mad cow disease

The IRS should at least go after all these "citizens" for taxes.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973224)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: mewling selfie

you’re just upset the constitution won’t allow you to be racist

you don’t actually care about the technical argument

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973227)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:28 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

It's insane and makes no sense

It's also why the Biden numbers were so big: there is a limited time to wake up and organize the changes needed to stop it. But once that time is over, the only rescue is America becoming bad enough that it's not worth the risk of emigrating to it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973228)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:36 AM
Author: violent poppy menage

K Biden was all American and I won't tolerate this slander

He got a bad deal and personally I feel bad for bashing him so much when in reality those anti-trust guys and old school trade unionist whites are what the democratic consensus SHOULD have been built on (and I said as much, albeit in other words)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973246)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

I'm sorry, Corn Pop. Please don't beat my ass

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973269)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:39 AM
Author: umber nibblets digit ratio

birthright citizenship was a tool to take over the Americas from indigenous people.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1536/cpsprodpb/f2cd/live/f1916210-e49d-11ef-a319-fb4e7360c4ec.png.webp

unfortunately, to fix Dred Scott, the US used sweeping language that is susceptible of a really dumb interpretation that locks in a really dumb policy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973254)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:19 AM
Author: violent poppy menage

great post

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973331)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 9:44 AM
Author: Disrespectful Provocative Fanboi Crackhouse

Subject to the Jurisdiction MEANS subject to the Jurisdiction

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973268)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: umber nibblets digit ratio

and yet it always had and presumably still has unenumerated exceptions, meaning that the phrase is reasonably construed as a category.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973343)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: Shivering irate office friendly grandma

Just define it as whether you have indefinite leave to REMAIN, which is how I assume it’s basically done in every other country in the world.

Of course that concept didn’t really exist in 1865 which is why this whole thing is retarded (and I think is basically Kavs reasoning as to why congress can define it as they want)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973361)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:10 AM
Author: Hateful Indigo School



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973317)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building

This is just such an obviously bad policy it's hard to see how this was the real intent

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973366)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:16 AM
Author: Jugashvili

I mean thats how they applied it in the years after it was passed. Been this way for over a century

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973448)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: Hateful Indigo School

isn't there a record of judges in the 1800s saying of course it wouldn't apply to children of diplomats etc thought I remembered reading that ages ago

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973474)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: Free-loading faggotry heaven

you couldn't fly here in a day 150 years ago.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973453)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Obviously the pumo libtards are arguing in bad faith. But this is of course the cr. It is really jarring to look back at immigration in history and see that a lot of people actually went back to their home countries. And it's like, yeah no shit, they didn't have endless welfare and a group of people who pee sitting down and fart cum out of their assholes doing anything and everything they can to make life easier for them at the expense of the nation.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973573)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: Chestnut Toaster Gay Wizard

yeah cons have always consistently argued that constitutional interpretation needs to take into account changing circumstances

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973661)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: internet-worthy parlour cumskin

(Guy with SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED bumper sticker)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973492)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:20 AM
Author: Blathering misanthropic lodge

Who cares? This hasnt really been a country since the 1960s. Make your money. Keep your head down. Make sure your sons never serve in the army or as cops. Very simple.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973459)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: abusive death wish sanctuary

By saying this you are questioning the esteem of the founding birdshits, this was how they wrote it and interpreted it. If you don't like it then you can leave the US. In this country we respect the wise judgment of the superior Birdshit founders

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973480)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Cyan Temple Striped Hyena

founders?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973510)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Blathering misanthropic lodge

Isn’t your Asian Confucianism all about ancestor worship like this?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973540)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon

Senator Jacob M Howard of Michigan was a founding birdshit?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973627)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Mark Levin has gone full Israel shill, but there was a point where he was pushing for a Convention of States to amend the constitution. Maybe it's impossible, but it always seemed like the only actual method for amending the constitution in any useful way.

It feels like this is off the table now and probably needed to get done in like 2010 at the latest. (Around when the idea was being discussed by Levin and others.)

Again, I realize Levin is full bore Israel first at this point, but the Convention of States idea felt like a strong approach.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973564)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon

It depends on what the meaning of the word "Jurisdiction" is.

Now, that may sound like a lawyer’s answer, but the Constitution is a lawyer’s document. If jurisdiction means the power of the United States to enforce its laws, then the child is under our jurisdiction. The parents can be arrested, sued, taxed, deported, and held accountable under American law. They are not diplomats. They are not an invading army. They are here, and the law reaches them.

But if jurisdiction means full political allegiance, as in a deeper belonging to the American community, then the question gets harder. A tourist obeys our laws, but he has not joined our country. An undocumented immigrant is subject to our authority, but he has not been admitted into our polity.

I think we ought to be very careful before letting the government decide that some children born here are less “born here” than others. And we ought to be just as careful before saying the government has no choice to make at all.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973597)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: burgundy pea-brained cruise ship ladyboy

Of course it’s fucking absurd what the hell?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973603)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Razzmatazz buck-toothed tanning salon

You're right to PUSH BACK on that

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973605)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:48 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Blue Masturbator Church Building

A lot of posters disagree apparently

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973637)



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Date: July 1st, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: coral forum toilet seat

We can't have that many citizens

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5878880&forum_id=2#49973650)