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The Senator was in the right in Godfather 2
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Date: July 9th, 2026 11:28 PM Author: translucent tattoo multi-billionaire These New York Italians come to his state and make a fortune and are stealing money left and right. Why shouldn’t he get a piece of the action and some no-show jobs for his boys? I would have done the same thing. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49989955) |
Date: July 9th, 2026 11:33 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer cr strongly agree i've always lol'd at the notion that those greasy wops were somehow the "moral high ground" "good guys" in that scene (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49989962) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: translucent tattoo multi-billionaire (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990501) |
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Date: July 9th, 2026 11:38 PM Author: Galvanic corner half-breed He was bad because he was racist and rude. If he just asked politely they probably would have given him a piece without needing to frame him (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49989972) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:27 AM Author: Filthy provocative address juggernaut A subtle aspect of the intelligence and political gamesmanship of the senator is during the public speech he intentionally mispronounces and americanizes "Corleone" but in the private meeting says it in Italian to Michael (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990508) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 3:31 PM Author: Big balding den (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991221) |
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Date: July 11th, 2026 3:06 PM Author: fuchsia senate He says it mockingly/exaggerated as fuck in private. You sound like a millennial female who can't finish the Film. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49993052) |
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Date: July 11th, 2026 7:22 PM Author: Filthy provocative address juggernaut Yes but the point is he knows how it really is said vs KOR-LEON in the speech (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49993407) |
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Date: July 11th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: Ocher chapel The paper of record folks (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49993024) |
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Date: July 9th, 2026 11:48 PM Author: Irradiated sweet tailpipe native Counterpoints. Take your pick.
1. Corruption bad. He should have been cracking down on the mob, not trying to get a cut.
2. Might makes right. The fact that he didn't have the power to compel Michael to give him a piece of the action shows he didn't have a right to it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49989985) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 3:45 PM Author: Electric bright keepsake machete field The point is this is a white nation and every effort by whites to keep immigrants out or harm the ones that somehow made it here has been morally correct (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991269) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 12:00 AM Author: fuchsia senate The Senator showing up at all gives the game away. A real sovereign doesn't need to come sniffing around the table imho. He sends an office, a board, a statute, a man with a stamp. He has a Turnbull. Turnbull's a good man iirc. Instead he comes himself. He wants to wet his beak in person. He wants the tribute warm. And by doing that he reduces himself. Then Michael finishes the demotion.
Then he wakes up in the brothel, drunk and Ruined, with a dead girl in the bed and Tom Hagen holding the mop. After that he gets nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license.
Maybe that is the whole fuckin' allegory. America is not conquered from outside. It's subverted by becoming more itself. TheImmigrant arrives outside the club. He learns the rules. Then he learns the rules beneath the rules.
At first the old stock sneers at him. Then it takes his money. Then it invites him to dinner. Then they make him CEO of Microsoft. Then it discovers he understands the country better than the people who inherited it.
That is The Godfather. Not an Italian story. An American story. The ethnic outsider doesn't destroy America by refusing to assimilate. He assimilates perfectly into the real America: patronage, violence, property, public virtue over private vice.
By the end, the Senator sings the praises of Italian-Americans because that is what America does once the money gets large enough. It launders the outsider into the establishment and calls the transaction progress. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990018) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:28 AM Author: exhilarant citrine cuckold Thank you, Senator. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990510) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 10:34 AM Author: Cordovan meetinghouse coldplay fan Always hated Michael's shiny gray suit, very disrespectful (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990528) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: Galvanic corner half-breed zoot suit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49990991) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:01 PM Author: irate mildly autistic alpha I had this realization recently.
Italians are niggers (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991000) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991121) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:13 PM Author: thriller knife forum "Senator, we're both part of the same hypocrisy. But never think it applies to my poasting." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991035) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:20 PM Author: offensive roast beef (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991061) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: exhilarant citrine cuckold (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991093) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 3:41 PM Author: translucent tattoo multi-billionaire (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991253) |
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Date: July 10th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: hot contagious stead They already have a bunch of local yokels on the payroll (casino gaming commission etc.). It's one thing to offer something in exchange (ex. license for bribe) and quite another for a politico to simply strongarm Michael. The senator entered a game he wasn't prepared for. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49991107) |
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Date: July 11th, 2026 7:46 PM Author: Comical twisted skinny woman I felt sorry for the kids at the party. It was their first communion and they had go to this reception with a jazz band and some boring adults making long speeches. Give them a piñata or a magician or something. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5881330&forum_id=2#49993444) |