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Confucius was more based and had better economy of words than Plato hth
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Date: July 17th, 2026 6:07 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007161) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 3:07 PM Author: twinkling personal credit line background story Confucius say, is good to meet girl in park, but better to park meat in girl. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008505) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 11:27 PM Author: Mauve deranged lodge 180 This is a good one—gonna use it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009303) |
Date: July 17th, 2026 6:08 PM Author: arousing bright chapel shitlib 孔子曰 「 im gay 」 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007163) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 3:04 PM Author: turquoise parlour trust fund (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008499) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 3:07 PM Author: Laughsome doctorate NSAM??? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008503) |
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Date: July 17th, 2026 6:08 PM Author: Metaphysics is Gay im 100% Han Chinese (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007165) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 3:06 PM Author: turquoise parlour trust fund Cyber-Multiculturalism is Highly Generative, if the history of Autoadmit is any indication… (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008501) |
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Date: July 17th, 2026 6:11 PM Author: Wine business firm They aren't really comparable. Plato and Aristotle laid down the foundations for all systematic thought and science, where Confucius was a mystic, more comparable to epictetus or something or perhaps one of the presocratics. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007171) |
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Date: July 17th, 2026 6:13 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond ljl the Analects are directly comparable to the Socratic dialogues. This is its own field of study (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007174) |
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Date: July 17th, 2026 6:16 PM Author: Wine business firm You are painfully stupid (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007180) |
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Date: July 17th, 2026 8:02 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond https://i.imgur.com/N52PInX.jpeg (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50007366) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 3:07 PM Author: Laughsome doctorate "OK Claude, agree with me! Go." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008504) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond go ahead and try. Make Claude say I'm wrong. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008608) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 10:16 PM Author: Wine business firm The point is that what you wrote is non-responsive given the context of my poast (which was about their place in intellectual history). Showing that A and B are comparable under some dimension d1 does not establish that they are comparable under the dimension d2 under dispute. Nearly any two major thinkers are comparable in some respect. The existence of a scholarly field devoted to such comparison proves only that comparisons can be made, not that the thinkers occupy analogous positions in intellectual history. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009178) |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:10 AM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond tl; dr (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009608) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 4:41 PM Author: histrionic wild tank ceo tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008618) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond computer online (🧐)-free thread now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50008619) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 9:42 PM Author: Spectacular windowlicker Good for Confucius and China (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009114) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond Go to askphilosophy r/askphilosophy 2y ago GigaChan450
Why is Plato so Confucian I am a beginner who got started with Plato, among others. (Plato's a good place to start, hehe) I'm halfway thru Republic.
My cursory thoughts are - given that he's the pioneer of Western philosophy, why is he so Confucian and authoritarian and Asian?
Some key ideas of his:
Everyone shld specialise, do what they're good at, not what they want to
Guardians shld never know their children, have families or wealth
He LOVES to put people into boxes
Perfect state is ruled by philosophers
This is because, we are not islands, we live in an inter-connected society. Our actions have consequences on others. This, altho our individual happiness is important, group happiness is very important too, and arguably more important, that's why all our actions shld consider the group, we cant just do whatever we want
This is essentially Confucianism. The family and the state is more important than the self
I expected Western philosophers to value the self more, broadly speaking
(Finally, can someone tell me if justice is better than injustice, for its own sake?)
https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/1awbqkp/why_is_plato_so_confucian/ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009135) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 10:22 PM Author: samoth Not sure you can make that statement without reading both in the original language (and understanding both languages at their respective contemporary times). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009192) |
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Date: July 18th, 2026 11:30 PM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond Even if you're illiterate in every language, you can tell the Analects contain fewer words. Chinese back then could only write on bluebook-sized bamboo slats, and I think you could only fit 10 slats in one "book." (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009309) |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 4:37 AM Author: twinkling personal credit line background story Never seen someone hallucinate "facts" the way you do, NSAM (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009490) |
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Date: July 19th, 2026 9:11 AM Author: Thirsty Generalized Bond Great argument (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5883660&forum_id=2#50009612) |