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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:05 PM Author: underhanded shrine not gonna leave my house for days tbh (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026076) |
Date: July 26th, 2026 11:06 PM Author: Crimson Box Office DESCRIBE the components. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026077) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:30 PM Author: underhanded shrine just started renting this furnished place in condo im at and there was no speakers expecpt thru tv so got this decent enough HW samsung sound bar with subwoofer and im WFHomoing to Lateralus and its 180
i think audiophilia is the hobby i would get into if i had the time and enough disposable $
i miss my Sennheiser HD 800s i cant find them and need to get a amplifier box too anyway those were insane even w/o them, i listened to Aja on there once and you could here every autisitc detail |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:40 PM Author: Crimson Box Office Sounds like you need a decent sound system at home if you think a Samsung soundbar with a sub is a high end system. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026121) |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:42 PM Author: underhanded shrine upper HWs are decent compared to sps tv speakers
out me a cr system |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:46 PM Author: Crimson Box Office Budget? For simple but good get Klipsch the Nines. You can get the old version on sale for $900 or the new and improved ones are $2500. No need for a seperate amp or sub. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026129) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:05 AM Author: underhanded shrine how big of a jump from the sevens to the nines? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026148) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:37 PM Author: Crimson Box Office Big enough that unless you have a compelling reason to get the sevens (just not enough space where you want to put them) I don't understand why you wouldn't just get the nines. Overall, it is the difference between you get the sevens and will probably want a sub vs getting the nines and you really don't need a sub. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028031) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:49 PM Author: underhanded shrine for some reason the used 7s and 9s are teh same price online oddcase (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028372) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:25 PM Author: Crimson Box Office There's minimal price difference new as well. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028438) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:12 AM Author: Talented Turdskin Personally not a fan of the all-in-one stuff.
When something dies the whole thing probably becomes trash.
No upgrade path. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 7:40 PM Author: Crimson Box Office This guy is impressed with a Samsung sound bar. I don't think focusing on picking perfect individual components and then upgrading each over time is what he is going to be doing. You also have to worry about synergy between the components which you don't worry about with all-in-one systems.
By the way, I mostly pick AIO systems because it saves the headache of dealing with individual components. I have built in ceiling speakers so with those I have the pleasure of dealing with that nonsense. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:22 PM Author: Talented Turdskin > This guy is impressed with a Samsung sound bar.
So? Advances in DSP in the last decade or so have enabled some pretty small devices to eek out surprisingly rich bass. A modern soundbar is genuinely much more pleasant to listen to than, say, a portable Bluetooth speaker or the cheapass 5.1 systems that were all over the place in the 00's.
> You also have to worry about synergy between the components
Lol. Lmao, even. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:41 PM Author: underhanded shrine The upper HW series are the best mid-range speakers that are 2.1 wireless obiouxly not my first choice but valuetown wise its like getting keys to the city esp for a Samsung
tbf though wirelss is def somewhat satanic for acoustics and i should get wired in future
Also unless the room is designed for acoustics properly theres almost no point in going overboard, the best audiphile experience will aways be high end heapdhones with proper amp etc ime if you have a good ear |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:38 PM Author: Talented Turdskin I do think headphones are a nice inexpensive way to get into higher quality sound reproduction. I do think it's easier to pull out details with headphones.
I completely disagree that they are the best audiophile experience. IMO, headphone frequency response graphs are a fucking mess compared to speakers. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:24 PM Author: Crimson Box Office Sure, but that's a very low bar.
"Lol. Lmao, even."
If you're going to seriously do the audiophile bs then yes, that's what they do. If you dgaf then just get the AIO that is good and save yourself the energy and space. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:03 PM Author: Talented Turdskin No, I'm not doing "the audiophile bs" - you are.
"Synergy"? GTFO. That word is (mostly) speaker store salesman bullshit.
The vast majority of people run solid state amps, and the vast majority of solid state amps can adequately power the vast majority of speakers.
Now, if you've got some odd gear, or think you might want to run odd gear, then yeah there are things to pay attention to.
But you can (and should) get pretty deep into the hobby before you start jerking yourself off about whether a particular impedance drop on speaker X is handled adequately by amp Y or what have you |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 11:39 PM Author: Crimson Box Office Right, but my point is that if you're not there then why bother with individual components when you can get a good AIO that will sound great and where you won't have to deal with any of that? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028774) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: Talented Turdskin I already mentioned longevity + upgrades.
Another reason would be that AIOs start to cost a fortune for anything "great". I admit those Nines on clearance for $1k are probably a score. Anything more expensive than that, you're paying more for less. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:46 PM Author: Clear Crackhouse https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650182953-yg-acoustics-xv3-with-pair-of-yg-acoustics-invincible-212-subwoofers/
note you'll still need amp preamp etc. |
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Date: July 26th, 2026 11:58 PM Author: Talented Turdskin KEF Q11 Meta ($2500) miniDSP Flex TRS w/ Dirac and a UMIK-1 ($1,125; from Deer Creek Audio) Buckeye Hypex NCx252MP ($625) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:12 AM Author: Clear Crackhouse what's ur system? u and oldhls are the only other people i've seen discuss audiophile stuff on xo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026155) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:42 AM Author: Talented Turdskin Mine is pretty similar to what I outlined above
My speakers are KEF LS50s with an SVS sub
My electronics are a MiniDSP Flex Digital, an RME ADI-2 DAC, and a Nuforce amp
While I think my LS50 + sub combo is great, the reason I don't think my system should be copied exactly is because IMO, a big reason why it's working so well is because I'm able to high pass filter the LS50s at 80hz. The LS50s just don't sound quite as good if you feed them a full range signal. Unfortunately, all the subs I know of that have a HPF aren't cheap.
Also my RME DAC is a bit redundant, the DAC in the analog version of the MiniDSP Flex is fine.
Drunkard probably has the best stereo on the board. (Or at least the most expensive.) He's got Klipschorns and a McIntosh tube amp.
Edit: I'm dumb, the MiniDSP Flex analog has two sets of analog outputs & I'm pretty sure you can high pass the mains. So LS50s + subwoofer(s) would be possible. Still not sure if I'd recommend it though, it's very tweaky. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:50 PM Author: underhanded shrine do you map out the room or have insulation etc or angle the speakers a certain way or distance wise, i heard that makes the biggest diff (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028375) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:12 PM Author: Talented Turdskin I have a certain amount of the basics. I am set up in an equilateral triangle with them aimed at my shoulders. The tweeters are pretty much right at ear height (although this sort of matters less with LS50s because they are very forgiving of being off-axis).
I haven't yet done any room treatment.
I do run Dirac room correction and I think it's 180. I run it full range. Some people don't like full range Dirac; it can sound a bit less lively, and maybe sort of fake? I've gotten used to it and I like it a lot. Even if you don't like full range correction, it's fantastic to do it up to about around 300Hz or so and clean up the bass. |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 10:10 PM Author: underhanded shrine 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028541) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:48 PM Author: sooty fighting water buffalo son of senegal I have the Buckeye amplifier too (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028370) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 12:08 AM Author: adventurous chestnut menage Yep (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50026152) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 8:47 PM Author: sooty fighting water buffalo son of senegal I have a Rotel receiver, Pro-ject turntable and preamp, a custom amplifier built by some guy in Ohio, and Paradigm tower speakers made in Canada. it's pretty cr. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028367) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:18 PM Author: galvanic ebony hospital toaster Indeed! JM Lab/Foçal floorstanders. Unison Research integrated amp (with tube pres). My dad's '70s Audio Technica TT. Bellari phono stage. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028420) |
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Date: July 27th, 2026 9:22 PM Author: bespoke multi-billionaire principal's office It's the best enjoyment/$ you can buy imo. And very easy to buy used at a huge markdown (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028425) |
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Date: July 28th, 2026 1:47 AM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house I've never once in my life heard a soundsystem that did anything, including in very nice home theaters that would blow your dick off with the number of speakers and the whole fucking set up, it just gets louder with more bass, so the fuck what? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028890) |
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Date: July 28th, 2026 6:58 AM Author: bespoke multi-billionaire principal's office You literally don't experience enjoyment of anything though (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50028975) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 12:11 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house I enjoy food and sex and beer, because they are real things, soundmos are just fags looking for a personality (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034484) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 12:15 PM Author: Up-to-no-good windowlicker I thought you said SSRIs killed all the joy in your life? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034488) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 12:22 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house they did but I quit them a decade ago (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034497) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 12:16 PM Author: bespoke multi-billionaire principal's office Are you deaf? That's the only way sound is any less "real" than food (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034489) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 12:23 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house no, I've been in legit very expensive home theater rooms and in doods living rooms who had vintage bose or whatever the fuck and my vizio soundbar sounds no different at normal volume levels, it isn't as loud but nobody can listen to anything that loud, my 15w guitar amp is louder than any person can stand (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034501) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 1:07 PM Author: Talented Turdskin > I've been in legit very expensive home theater rooms
IMO, unless you're *really* into movies/gaming, surround sound is something of a dumb expensive gimmick.
> and in doods living rooms who had vintage bose or whatever the fuck
Vintage anything is iffy IMO. Okay for a secondary system perhaps. Pretty lame in a primary system.
> my vizio soundbar sounds no different at normal volume levels
no |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 1:18 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house except yes, yes it does, I can tell when I PA system at a music venue sucks because the quality of the sound is worse, home speakers literally don't do anything, you can't get them loud enough to do anything without blowing your fucking eardrums out, you are all literally imagining this stuff to justify it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034611) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 1:27 PM Author: Talented Turdskin Unless you're sitting literally 2ft from your soundbar, you aren't getting proper stereo separation.
> home speakers literally don't do anything, you can't get them loud enough to do anything without blowing your fucking eardrums out
I don't even know what you're trying to convey here, just total gibberish. Whatever is in your head is completely wrong anyway. |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 1:29 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house ljl at "stereo separation" plz describe to me the physical aspect of sound that I am missing when I hear things |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: Talented Turdskin You're either extremely stupid or not participating in good faith if you think there is something laughable about stereo separation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034753) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:00 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house I would like you to describe to me the mechanics by which your nice sound system creates better soundwaves travelling through the air, unless you're making this all up and relying on "dood I can just HEAR the difference," because I can go in the other room right now and play a note on a irl guitar, which is as good as sound can possibly get, then let a note play over my fucking soundbar and it is just as good (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034760) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:03 PM Author: bespoke multi-billionaire principal's office can you describe the mechanics by which your soundbar is better than a dell pc speaker (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034765) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house a shitty enough speaker will distort even at regular volumes, as I admitted above I understand that you need a sufficient speaker size to play in very large rooms (like a PA system) but stated that at home this isn't an issue, which it isn't and you just outted yourself as a fag who is lying about this, you literally can't tell me what your expensive shit is doing, because it isn't doing anything, it is all vibrations in the air, that's it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034771) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:27 PM Author: bespoke multi-billionaire principal's office lol you're so fucking mad about this. yes man my home audio speakers are cleaner and project better than your soundbar for the same exact reasons your soundbar sounds better than dell pc speakers or built in tv audio.
you're just some edgy asshole who wants to judge everyone like a petulant teenager. |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house "cleaner" and "project" are made up words that literally convey no meaning, you are imagining this, I know what things sound like irl, which is as clean as it is possibly for things to sound (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034843) |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: Talented Turdskin As far as stereo separation is concerned, the left & right channels should hit your ears in a way that you can discern the difference between the two channels. If you can't, the music is either recorded in mono or you're sitting too far from your speakers.
It's basically impossible for a soundbar to have proper stereo separation. It might happen if you have a really long soundbar & sit laughably close. |
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Date: July 30th, 2026 2:14 PM Author: tantric chartreuse step-uncle's house lol, that is for headphones, real life doesn't have left and right sounds, that's a studio trick (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5886516&forum_id=2#50034803) |