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*admires an ancient civilization that collapsed and died off*
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Date: August 9th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055109) |
Date: August 9th, 2026 12:55 PM Author: cheese-eating lay Ancient Rome, responding to your poast:
“Maybe it’s my fault. Maybe I made you think our imperial majesty was built on flash and not fire. That my highlights started on the battlefield, and not the strength of our people, economy, virtue. That our history was built on pomp and not endurance. That our reign of 1,000 plus years was the product of luck and not resilience and ingenuity. Maybe it’s my fault. Or maybe, you’re just making excuses.”
*basketball solemnly drops and gradually bounces to rest in a dimmed pantheon* |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 12:55 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055181) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: gerstern 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055418) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 4:21 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055656) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 1:08 PM Author: burgundy place of business keep talkin shit about ancient Rome, bucko (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055218) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 1:12 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055239) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 1:36 PM Author: boyish misanthropic locale yeah the 90s were great (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055304) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:16 PM Author: dull nubile theatre sex offender (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055370) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:55 PM Author: aromatic buff ladyboy temple Kings of America should don the ceremonial 1995 Griffey jersey at their coronation (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055566) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055660) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 1:59 PM Author: internet-worthy liquid oxygen double fault (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055336) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055663) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:12 PM Author: khaki gunner you mean all of them? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055361) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:15 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Chinese civilization never collapsed (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055369) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: khaki gunner (guy who has never hard of he Han collapse in 220 when multiple competing states occupied its former territory for centuries) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055375) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Move those goalposts (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055376) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:23 PM Author: khaki gunner The example directly contradicts your claim unless you are making "civilization" so broad that your claim becomes unfalsifiable (for instance if you just mean "some cultural traditions continued afterward). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055387) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:24 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Oh, you're making a semantic argument! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055391) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: khaki gunner Your claim is about whether something called "Chinese civilization" remained the same thing across thousands of years. The definition of that thing is the entire issue (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055399) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:32 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Now you're lying about what I said. It figures (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055405) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: khaki gunner Oh okay so you didn't say Chinese Civilization persisted from ancient civilization until the present? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055410) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:35 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot It never collapsed and died off (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055417) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:37 PM Author: gerstern Chinks do this all the time to try to suggest greater civilizational continuity than actually existed. They elide numerous time periods and often competing states. They have nothing approaching what was done with Rome, Great Britain, and now the American Imperium. And they need to be called out about it mercilessly. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055423) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:40 PM Author: khaki gunner They are just defining everything that ever happened in that region as "china". It's the same as if you just said "european civilization has unbroken continuity" then pointed to rome and greece. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055429) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:42 PM Author: gerstern Correct. And it’s important to maintain the western prerogative to continuously vociferously remind them of this when they try to hand wave “Chinese Civilization.” Ideally we should do these lectures from bases as close to their mainland as possible. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055435) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:23 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055504) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:41 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot They've kept tradition alive for thousands of years. Language, philosophy, art, all of it. No one knows what the fuck happened to Ancient Greece and Rome though. They just died at some point (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055434) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: gerstern Shut the fuck up you got your shit thoroughly pushed in in this thread. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055437) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Nah (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055438) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:43 PM Author: khaki gunner So is modern Mandarin is just the ancient language preserved unchanged? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055439) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:45 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot The Chinese writing system was developed specifically because Chinese people have always spoken a multitude of languages, and they needed a writing system that was universally intelligible.
lol@ you thinking Chinese people used to all speak the same language. Just lol |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:50 PM Author: khaki gunner This is like arguing Europe was a single continuous civilization because the Roman alphabet is still used.
lol@ you thinking Chinese people used to all speak the same language. Just lol --
yeah because I definitely said that |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:52 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot No it isn't, because you can't pick up an old Roman scroll and read it without extensive training, whereas Chinese people living today can read Confucius without assistance. Big difference! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055454) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 2:54 PM Author: khaki gunner No they can't. There are thousands of characters in ancient chinese writing that even specialists still can't decipher. I can read the characters on a Roman monument easily. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055459) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:11 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot The Qin dynasty fixed that. lol@ your piss poor education (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055481) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:13 PM Author: khaki gunner Qin standardized the script so I guess that means moderns can read ancient Confucius! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055483) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:14 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot When do you think the Analects were actually written?
Be specific |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:18 PM Author: khaki gunner Yeah because if the received compiled text was ACKTUALLY put together AFTER qin then that definitely means moderns can read it! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055490) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:19 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot You forgot to answer the question (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055492) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:01 PM Author: pungent stag film shitlib Because they stuck with an outdated form of technology that makes them continuous? Lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055465) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:04 PM Author: khaki gunner It isn't true to begin with. Oracle bone chinese takes even more training to learn to decipher than roman cursive, and even experts still can't agree on all of it (or much of it can't decipher at all). At least moderns can read Roman capitals with no training. He is probably comparing a modern typeset version of confuscius with a Roman papyrus. Also even if any of it were true it doesn't establish civilizational continuity. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055469) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:13 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot Their civilization simply never collapsed and died (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055485) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:28 PM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) If this was true it'd be a massive self-pwn anyway. If a civilization with thousands of years of continuity and a massive headstart on the west kept getting it's shit pushed in by successive western upstart civilizatios, then that civilization must be SPS. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055514) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:32 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot It never collapsed and died off like Egyptian, Greek and Roman civilizations (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055519) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:57 PM Author: aromatic buff ladyboy temple Its women regularly collapse with exhaustion after taking miles of white cock during orientation week (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055576) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: khaki gunner (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055527) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 3:40 PM Author: Smoky indirect expression cr. bizarre subthread (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055536) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 4:22 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055659) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 4:23 PM Author: blue bawdyhouse *as time goes by 🎶 slowly gets louder ITT* 🍃 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890958&forum_id=2#50055664) |
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Date: August 9th, 2026 8:31 PM Author: glittery coral brunch coffee pot China is an ancient civilization with more than 4000 years’ history. It has gone through the flourishing age for many times. For example, the Benign Administration of the Cheng-Kang Reign Period (Cheng Kang Zhi Zhi) in the Western Zhou Dynasty, the Benign Administration of Wenjing Reign Period (Wen Jing Zhi Zhi) in Western Han Dynasty, the Benign Administration of Zhenguan Reign Period (Zhen Guan Zhi Zhi) in Tang Dynasty, the Benign Administration of the Kang-Qian Reign Period (Kang Qian Zhi Zhi) in Qing Dynasty. The standards of a flourishing age are national unity, national harmony, economic prosperity, people's prosperity, political openness, rule of law, cultural prosperity, academic progress and so on.
https://english.court.gov.cn/2019-01/09/c_761410.htm |