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40 y/o, 5’9”, 400K income in DC. Have given up on a wife and/or children.
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:46 AM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo I fail two tests.
First, I am too short. I am not physically attractive enough.
Second, I don’t make enough money. I am not a good enough provider.
Every single woman in DC expects to work her “save the whales” non profit job at 50k a year and still live in a McLean new build or in upper NW where these homes are easily $3M. I can’t swing it. Not to mention the rest of the lifestyle, private school, etc.
So I have basically given up. It’s liberating in a way. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: Ungodly point friendly grandma giving up is the best feeling in the world, ngl (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081171) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:23 PM Author: Slate Background Story (irl cat) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081174) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:47 PM Author: Frozen self-centered base potus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtjqh6IpIbU (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081233) |
Date: August 20th, 2026 11:47 AM Author: garnet razzmatazz casino coffee pot start taking anabolics and peptides. It's your last chance (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080294) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:49 AM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo I look physically fine. I am just never going to be tall enough. They want what they want. And it’s 6’. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080300) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: Aromatic anal shitlib This. 100% (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080304) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:16 PM Author: Slate Background Story (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080373) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:32 PM Author: fragrant yellow step-uncle's house liquid oxygen (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080586) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:03 PM Author: garnet razzmatazz casino coffee pot you obviously don't look physically fine when you're invisible at best, and repulsive at worst, to every woman that happens to see you (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080353) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:08 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo I’m old enough to know. I’ve had frank convos with women who rejected me. It’s always height and status related. Even if I have to read between the lines.
I also can get dates with non ugly women. I wouldn’t “pass go” if I were repulsive. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:11 PM Author: Aromatic anal shitlib Here’s what the issue is for most “handsome” short men. In a vacuum she likes you. This is why street approach is a horrible concept. You’re the only one talking to her so if you’re handsome she will like you and take your number. But then you take her out on a date or meet her friends and you’re surrounded by Tall men and women who are judging you. Then you won’t pass that date. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080367) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:14 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo About right, yes.
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Date: August 21st, 2026 8:34 AM Author: 180 unhinged famous landscape painting death wish The girl I am dating teases me for being a short king (6'1 btw). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082463) |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 8:39 AM Author: Exciting godawful international law enforcement agency area You seem very insecure bro. Did you get laid in HS? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082466) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: dashing ceo theater stage No. You’re not casting a wide enough net. You need to date ugly lonely girls exclusively.
What you’re really saying is that you’ve given up on having a 7+ wife. And that’s almost certainly true. There is an objective 5 out there for you. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:53 AM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo This isn’t really a woe is me story. I know I can’t date a 8/10 but I also don’t really want an ugly weirdo girlfriend. I’d rather be single than be with a 3/10. I’m not saying I can do better than a 5 or 6 but I really don’t want to be with someone that ugly. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080315) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: Aromatic anal shitlib Just pick a chick with something you like but everything else horrible. Like if you love legs and ass pick a girl with nice legs and ass but a horrid face or vice versa. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080323) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:57 AM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo They still demand height and income I don’t have. Women don’t have to settle like men do. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080332) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:38 PM Author: Abnormal crackhouse coldplay fan be honest, are you a legit barefoot 5'9 or a Johnsmeyer 5'9 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080424) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:45 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo The latter but it’s about right
I am several inches taller than the women I date, almost exclusively 5’-5’4” women. |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 6:23 AM Author: dashing ceo theater stage Just pick one and marry them. You’re being a bitch.
Accept that your ugly wife will make other men snicker, but no more than they already do at you. |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 10:29 AM Author: scarlet jewess (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082618) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:50 AM Author: Abnormal crackhouse coldplay fan Why would you want to anyway. Especially with a DC shrew. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080306) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:54 AM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo I know XO lore on this subject but there’s plenty of non shrews here. Even some of the shrews aren’t that bad.
It’s just a massive status town and I can’t provide that. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:00 PM Author: Abnormal crackhouse coldplay fan Yeah I get it. Just seems like a lot of stress and work that isn’t worth it at all to me. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080343) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo Well. I have largely checked out. Still on apps but not using. I rarely date anymore because it started to be bad for my mental. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080345) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:09 PM Author: Abnormal crackhouse coldplay fan My brother is a 6’3 multi millionaire and he is still stuck in dating hell and moping around as a lovelorn sadguy. I’m glad I’m not like that. Not saying single life or any kind of life is great, but at least I have my dignity and independence. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080365) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:32 PM Author: pontificating center “I’m glad I don’t get laid” lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080583) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 2:17 PM Author: Abnormal crackhouse coldplay fan get out of here with that crap. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080723) |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 10:32 AM Author: scarlet jewess He's a very strange minority and has not realized that nobody white has been impressed with "sex" since about 2018 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082620) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: boyish frisky lodge The truth is that 80% of white women have also given up on families, its just that it doesn't seem to bother them. Turns out that in the "all or nothing" paradigm they operate in, "nothing" is not that much worse than "all" considering they all seem to be doing ok (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080335) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:08 PM Author: Aromatic anal shitlib Spot on (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080360) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: Irradiated costumed dysfunction corner i really need someone to buttfuck me in my asspussy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080344) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo Sometimes just to get laid I go to Tyrst because I can’t get over sexual urges (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080347) |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 6:34 AM Author: dashing ceo theater stage You’re not supposed to (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082378) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:10 PM Author: sinister very tactful school half-breed Offer to be a beta provider in a one way open relationship where they can have BBC on the side (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080366) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:16 PM Author: painfully honest bisexual philosopher-king I procured a wife, children, and a family on a lower salary. I think you’re just located in the wrong part of the country. Everyone in DC is either filthy rich or otherwise super powerful. You cannot compete under those market conditions. You should consider a move to Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:19 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo Then I wouldn’t make my salary which as a single person lets me retire with $MM in the bank at 60.
Also people are much taller in smaller cities not on the coast. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:29 PM Author: Flatulent brunch lol just lol at male shrews with zero introspection like OP. Worse than women. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080580) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 2:18 PM Author: mentally impaired slap-happy filthpig filthy rich or super powerful tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080725) |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 12:53 AM Author: aggressive macaca bawdyhouse GS-15 mastermen assemble (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082170) |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 1:13 AM Author: mentally impaired slap-happy filthpig (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082191) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:17 PM Author: Slate Background Story you voted for this (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080377) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:19 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo No, I didn’t. Not after 08. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080378) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:39 PM Author: Slate Background Story you voted for it by working some professional faggot job in a professional faggot urban area. you chose this path in life. this is entirely your fault (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080425) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:21 PM Author: infuriating spectacular ladyboy pocket flask I have 8 kids (raising 7) and another on the way (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080385) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:24 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo That’s a lot of kids man (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080392) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:28 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080403) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:33 PM Author: Ruby School Cafeteria i'm a lot taller than you and make a lot more money, but it doesn't make any difference. seems like a lot of women these days would rather be single than compromise on a guy who isn't absolutely perfect (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080412) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 12:34 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo City?
True on coast but middle American women want babies pronto |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:11 PM Author: Floppy Stage You won't need all that money. Can I have some (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080544) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:36 PM Author: Opaque Marketing Idea Church I’m 40 in nyc and make 250k, my wife doesn’t work (just passion projects and raises our son).
Why would you need to make more than 400k? Oh forget to mention I’m 6’4 but still don’t think it can be that hard. I see lots of short guys out there partnered up. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 3:35 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo I can’t support their expected SAHM lifestyle which easily requires 1M or so in DC (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080950) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: Opaque Marketing Idea Church Ahh.. I can see that. May just have to move to LCOL city and make it work (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081039) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:37 PM Author: pontificating center I still get pussy irl nbd afaik.
Anyway I guess because of feminism a Woman would rather just harvest sperm of the biggest Chad or POS she can find, dump him, and be Enslaved by a job that spikes her cortisol even if it pays Nothing than put up with some faggot Loser for the rest of her life lol.
But the end of the day, even with soooo much phenotype Curation and rejection but the guys they end up with still suck. Reminds me of the job market lol idk. |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 1:42 PM Author: pontificating center Fun (or probably not) with cowgod's lack of relationships (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080621) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 2:15 PM Author: glassy regret Why can't you just settle down with a short and plain looking woman? This was the norm back when I was in my 20s and early 30s. Fat people with other fats. Loser types with other losers. Is the dating market so bad that even average looking women expect tall rich good looking alphas now? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080722) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 3:33 PM Author: snowy juggernaut tattoo My assessment is yes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50080948) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: Opaque Marketing Idea Church are you only dating white women with UMC backgrounds ? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081046) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:57 PM Author: pontificating center He only likes Women who aced OCI (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081255) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:16 PM Author: sadistic community account trailer park I'm surprised more people don't just do work remote from a red state and earn a big city salary. $250k is plenty for a nice big house in a suburb of a red state city with a Big 4 sports team. It's not hard to find a 6-figure house with over 4k sqft. Yeah, being short sucks for dating but more women here want families and aren't content to girlboss like you find in DC so if you work on your personality you should easily be able to pull a subjective 6. It's not too late to make a life change. You'll be miserable living alone for the next 40+ years. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081158) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:18 PM Author: Slate Background Story Remote jobs don't grow on trees anymore. 2022 is Never Coming Back. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081159) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 6:01 PM Author: pontificating center People did this and it screwed up the housing market. And most people realize that living in a New City means you have like 90% fewer friends, usually 100% imo, and dont want the tradeoff. Also family exists afaik. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081264) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 6:10 PM Author: Aromatic anal shitlib This is the absolute opposite of the truth and this is coming from a 5’9 male. In NYC or DC you have a lot of feminine looking males. Even Tall ones. You can be 5’9 in NYC but if you’re in shape and slightly on the side of jacked you have a chance if you’re handsome and have hair. You can get decent looking white girls. You can also crush it with Latinas and actually “hot” Asians. Are you going to walk into a club at night and crush it? No but it’s do-able to meet chicks in your everyday. True 5’9 guys you’re in the very low end of “blending in” if you can get a favorable pair of shoes in nyc or dc. Doesn’t apply to 5’6 guys claiming to be 5’9.
In red states you’re completely demolished. Every guy is 6’5 and you look like a complete midget. Horrible advice. |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 6:45 AM Author: autistic electric voyeur single 5'8" 40 year old nyc transplant jew living alone in a starksville mcmansion debating whether to slip into church or the sig nu frat party to find a suitable non-girlboss wife (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082381) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:21 PM Author: Ungodly point friendly grandma 40 y/o, 5’9”, 400K income in DC: if this was a woman, I would be interested (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081168) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:46 PM Author: contagious insanely creepy box office Yeah I am the old fuck whining and complaining about my broken affair with a girl who I have been a sucka for love ass trick for in another thread. We all can get caught up in a situation, but I am married and have kids.
I also have slam pieced plenty of bitches over the years. You fucking guys have got to quit taking these tricks seriously.
We had these two young guys in the office a month or so ago from Denver. Both white and good looking 6' type guys 30ish. I don't know if they had money but they certainly had access to some business wise because one was a nephew of a business owner that is damn near a billionaire.
These bitch ass motherfuckers (one was engaged) were both going on about how hard it was to date in Denver with women who knew they were in the oil and gas business, etc. The women would just not date you being in oil and gas and Republican.
I wanted to fucking bitchslap those two faggots. Ok, if a bitch is fucking giving you some pussy and says I love you and shit then pulls back, whatever, it can happen to the best of us. But goddamn, fucking dating one of the skank ass 6'ish whores? Tell that bitch that this is the program and this is how its gonna be. These are MY fucking requirements. I'm fucking cool. But until you are smarter than me, a better money manager than me, etc. you need to shut the fuck up. And bitch you are going to fucking work too. Do you think I'm going to let my wife fucking sit at home all day and go volunteer and make pies and shit for Catholic Charities to bring in more illegals? Fuck no. Get up bitch, get to fucking work. My kids went to day care. They may end up fucked up, but they are at least socialized for now and don't get sick almost ever.
Quit being on the defensive for a fucking 6 or 7 man. Go out there and snag some fucking pussy. You have to be cold. Icy on a once a month bleeding bitch. You will evaluate her AFTER she is giving you pussy to see if she is worthy of being with you. This is the only rule there is. Until she is fucking you there are no rules. Lie to that bitch. Game her fucking ass. Your motivation is a hard dick in her cunt and her motivation is to see if she can lock you down. These whores at the beginning have to feel animal shit coming off you. You want to stick your cock between her legs. This is all she is good for until she demonstrates she is worth more than that. |
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Date: August 21st, 2026 8:42 AM Author: Exciting godawful international law enforcement agency area (Frank T.J. Mackey) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50082472) |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: contagious insanely creepy box office I used to fuck this bitch from San Francisco when I was in law school. She had a good body, but I never liked her face. I would tell her shit like you're pretty hot and cool, but every time I get on top of you I can't help but think about you in San Francisco eating out and touching the same things all those faggots with GRID touch. I'm sorry but it grosses me out. I literally would say shit like that.
She was very outgoing and went to NYC for her summer clerkship. When she came back she told me about a guy she had met up there in his 20's making 350K/yr (remember this was 2003) who said he couldn't get a girl. I was floored. It was like someone said the hs starting QB couldn't get a GF. I just didn't see how that was possible. So the signs and shit of dudes allowing these whores in the city to beat them down has been building for a long time. Break those fucking slave chains my bros! |
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Date: August 20th, 2026 6:27 PM Author: aggressive macaca bawdyhouse I've lived in DC for three years and have never seen a woman (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5895241&forum_id=2#50081334) |