I knew libs would find a way to fumble the bag and here it is. They're going to win in Novemeber and get even more emboldened. This dumb shit is going to ramp up again and essentially force every white dude to vote GOP in 2028.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124841)

Now you need a line about how Nick Fuentes has all the answers because he's "outside of the system" or something

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124874)

I think the AF movement is just getting started. James Fishback did really well with the under 30 vote. I'm personally not voting in '26 and don't really care what happens. I think an AF candidate of substance will emerge in '28. There's a groyper voting guide coming out too that ranks Congress on where they are on the key issues. I think it's really going somewhere.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124938)

Do you think a viable white supremacist/nationalist/isolationist (idk how you'd prefer to define it) POTUS candidate will emerge in 2028?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124950)

I can't predict 2028 but it should get pretty wild. It will make 2016 GOP primary look quaint by comparison.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124973)

Idk how anyone can support a "loosely defined" movement anyway. Why not base your support on policies and principles instead of people?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124987)

And I'd argue that for people to really embrace right wing ideas (and solutions to the actual problems), they need to first really get a taste of communism. Otherwise, you end up with Thoughtful Moderates pontificating endlessly while conditions worsen...but not enough to allow for the masses of people to accept real pathways towards change.

Again, maybe it doesn't work and maybe it's horse shit. But if you look at men under 30, it seems like some form of change will be inevitable as time marches on.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124948)

This has nothing to do with the case or libs libbing locally. It's that it's the first mass rumbling of wokeness I've seen since 2024.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50124953)

reminds me of 2015-2016 when libs were confronted with the fact that 40-50% of the country were doing something libs considered so insane it could never possibly be done. Trumpmos repeated, for months, "no, im quite serious about all this" and still libs lolled and figured there was just no way....

When tens of millions of people voice something that is so insane as to break your brain (child murdering mom should get off, because being a woman is hard), you should really consider the fact that they truly believe this, that this idea of theirs has heretofore not penetrated your worldview, and you might have to adjust your perception of reality.

The huge support this bitch has certainly prompted me to reconsider some things.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125125)

But my phone isn't sending me push notications that "female jurors unanimously demand admitted murderer is not guilty." While both radical fringes contribute, only the left has locked down major institutions and define what bigotries are permitted.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125169)

yes its sad and all, but you either oppress women to liberate them or liberate them to oppress them. theres really not a third way; we tried

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125200)

I'm talking about the reality we live in today, not what I'd do if I could wave a magic wand. I think we were moving back towards traditionally over the past couple years, and shit like this is moving us back toward woke bullshit, and that you're playing into their hands by participating in the hysteria. Responding to female hysteria by behaving like a hysterical woman strikes me a poor strategy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125259)

"Guys, the fringe right is just as bad as the fringe left. But also I'm super duper right wing guys. Trust me."

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125408)

You're fixated on the fact I consider myself right wing for some reason. But I'm active in right wing groups and never run into these radical purity tests. Maybe I'm controlled opposition, but at least I am active in that opposition, which is more than being an anonymous radical online.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125494)

Also LJL at this passionate screed confirming that you're just triggered because you saw yourself in my criticism thaf wasn't directed at you. GROYPERS RISE UP! GAMERGATE 2026!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125589)

It's impossible that AF ever becomes the dominant political ideology on the Right, right? so you're calling it. But I know when it reaches its zenith you're going to backtrack. I think it's only fair if you make an effortpoast explaining why you think Nick and groypers are totally 100% obscure and irrelevant and doomed to the dust bin of history. Stop being a pussy about it. Call your shot. It's over, right? Don't back out now.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125611)

Idk how we got into a referendum on groyperism but you know my politics well so it's crazy how you misrepresent them as not being anti-Israel or anti-immigration. I criticized Trump for his support for Israel and you called me a doomer, and now you've abandoned him and are saying I'm for it? Maybe if you weren't blindly loyal to Trump it wouldn't have been such a suprise, but instead you've decided to become blindly loyal to Fuentes (unless it's about punishing white women her murder their children, M'Lindsey is innocent)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125646)

I was only loyal to Trump until the Iran War turned sour at which point I had no choice. But I think supporting the President up through then was a good call. After all, we're supposed to root for our country to succeed. I cheered for Biden when he pulled out of Afghanistan. I'm not a robot nor have I ever been.

But you blow with the breeze so long as whatever ends up happening vindicates your worldview. You used to attack people for not having principles. But now if you have an ideology you're a slacktivist loser? Unless that ideology eventually merges with your views on a long enough timespan you can get on board and declare victory? You have every possible win condition and none in which you lose... amazing!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125661)

To be clear:

1) I accused you of resonating with my slacktivist criticim, I am not saying all groypers are slacktivist. Nick himself is one of the most active and influential people around today.

2) I said I'm only considered "not right wing" relative to this fringe, I never said this fringe was hopeless and doomed.

3) I've haven't equivocated on anything. You just have a retarded black and white view of things and think the only options are disavow or devote. Non-retards usually find things they agree and disagree with everyone.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125678)

To be clear I'm not claiming I'm some major political operative, I only brought up my activism as evidence I'm very right wing, just not relative to fringe places like xo, and I rarely meet people like that IRL actually doing stuff. There are a few though, I've got some IRL groyper friends who actually do shit. But they never get mad and call me a thoughtful moderate like the meanies here >:(

I did some pro bono legal work for them too!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125727)

Also groypers skews younger and we're old now so it's likely that we wouldn't run into many our age.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125734)

I don't want to go half as far as what Nick wants but we'd probably agree on 100% of things that are actually achievable.

Also I've already seen him walking back some of his more insane shit as immaturity and trolling, and is quick to emphasize how many brown and Jewish friends he has. If he ever walks it all the way to the shit I've always believed don't criticize me for equivocating, just cop to the SS America First sailing to a place no one knows happened to land in thoughtful moderate land.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125772)

The issue is that these people think criminal justice is the only avenue to get those dangerous to society off the streets. But that's a recent thing. We should have mental health facilities for those people along with all the deranged hobos out there.

Also while I think Clancy is guilty I'm not clutching my pearls if she goes free. The case isn't that important and it's not like Trayvon or Zimmerman that taps into some important social issue. People who think women are going to let murdering moms of en masse are hysterical. First of all it's a rare event, second retarded juries let murderous didnus off the hook all the time. That's the price we pay for a justice system with such a high bar for guilt, which I support. And Clancy isn't going to reoffend and she'll bear the stigma of this for life regardless of whether she's convicted. She's a paraplegic OJ. She's dunn hurr. Everyone should calm down.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125886)

It's funny but a dindu I grew up with was acquitted of murder despite a mountain of evidence against him. The cops, DA, attorneys all said we have no idea what happened. Just how it is sometimes.

Also if I'm not mistaken didn't the Notorious RBG write the opinion that dismantled a lot of states' mental hospital systems as unconstitutional? Pretty sure she was the author of the opinion that said locking up the crazies in the nuthouse is inhumane and they should be brought back into the community, thus creating the homelessness crisis.

I have maintained from the beginning that LC should be civilally committed to the nuthouse for a period of up to life.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125904)

It's the issue I'm most passionate about. Homelessness is the greatest tragedy of our time. It's horrific we let people suffer and die in the streets and horrific we let them terrorize polite society. Libs think it's crueler to treat them and would rather they freeze, and cons think treating them is bleeding heart shit and they should be incinerated or something. So nothing happens.

But every single person I've met who works with the homeless, and I used to be one of them, agrees they need to be locked the fuck up for their own good and for society. It should be a completely nonpartisan issue, and if everyone worked at a shelter for a weekend it would be. Whether it's out of compassion for them or for the betterment of society: lock them up until they withdrawal.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125999)

some reason = all of your viewpoints on here amount to "guys, both sides are bad, don't be like the left!" and criticizing people for using strong language about the left on XO, of all places, so that you can seem above it all.

"Guys, don't ever vent on a semi-secret web 1.0 message board! You don't want to be like the left! You're hurting our cause!!"

It's like you're stuck in 2012.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50126606)

https://x.com/kentuckygirl1/status/2095321964982182377

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125212)

Pretty soon AI is going to revolutionize voir dire when you can scour the jury pools social media for shit like this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5901942&forum_id=2#50125608)