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T/F: nations still exist in a state of nature with respect to each other

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sticky khaki garrison messiness
  09/11/26
Counterexample: The European Union.
exhilarant abode
  09/11/26
neighbors can form voluntary pacts in a state of nature
sticky khaki garrison messiness
  09/11/26
I thought government was supposed to be a voluntary pact for...
exhilarant abode
  09/11/26
Hobbes never addressed this specific question. Guess who did
sticky khaki garrison messiness
  09/11/26
open borders was the death of sovereignty
Sadistic fragrant pit clown
  09/11/26
the decision to open one's borders is itself a sovereign act...
sticky khaki garrison messiness
  09/11/26


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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:37 PM
Author: sticky khaki garrison messiness



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: exhilarant abode

Counterexample: The European Union.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131018)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:44 PM
Author: sticky khaki garrison messiness

neighbors can form voluntary pacts in a state of nature

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131019)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:49 PM
Author: exhilarant abode

I thought government was supposed to be a voluntary pact for Hobbes.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131033)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:52 PM
Author: sticky khaki garrison messiness

Hobbes never addressed this specific question. Guess who did

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131037)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Sadistic fragrant pit clown

open borders was the death of sovereignty

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131035)



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Date: September 11th, 2026 9:53 PM
Author: sticky khaki garrison messiness

the decision to open one's borders is itself a sovereign act. If you believe borders still exist, you must believe the sovereign still exists.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5902946&forum_id=2#50131038)