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Release of Astra 6.1 cancelled for safety concerns

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Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook
  09/28/26
thoughts?
Drab tanning salon alpha
  09/28/26
I'm pissed off. I want newer more capable models on schedule...
Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook
  09/28/26
all feels the same to me at this point
glittery glassy meetinghouse
  09/28/26
they were planning a huge announcement spree this week, this...
Violet balding stag film coffee pot
  09/28/26
nah open ai is cheaper than anthropic. they already released...
Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook
  09/28/26
At least Gemini 4 Pro will be here soon enough and will like...
Hateful Cobalt Newt
  09/28/26
Yeah happy about that, but annoying that google went like a ...
Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook
  09/28/26
The 3.5 pro pre-train was apparently a failure (otherwise th...
Hateful Cobalt Newt
  09/28/26
Yeah too bad I actually like gemini too. It's personality is...
Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook
  09/28/26
Yeah, that’s why i use Gemini 3.8 flash for stuff that...
Hateful Cobalt Newt
  09/28/26
The world ain't gonna end itself. Get to it.
ruddy violent spot
  09/28/26


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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:29 PM
Author: Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159819)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:31 PM
Author: Drab tanning salon alpha

thoughts?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159822)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:36 PM
Author: Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook

I'm pissed off. I want newer more capable models on schedule and I want minimal "safety".

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159829)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: glittery glassy meetinghouse

all feels the same to me at this point

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159835)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:43 PM
Author: Violet balding stag film coffee pot

they were planning a huge announcement spree this week, this means the model was gonna be at the level of claude opus 5.5 but 3x the cost

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159839)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook

nah open ai is cheaper than anthropic. they already released their "opus class" model, sol 6, and it's half the price of the previous sol and luna is the cheapest most cost-effective pound for pound of any model, destroys all the chinese models. And Astra and Fable 5.1 are the same price, but Astra ends up being cheaper because it doesn't waste as many tokens.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159846)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Hateful Cobalt Newt

At least Gemini 4 Pro will be here soon enough and will likely be quite good. The flash models recently seem to indicate Google has finally figured out post-training and 4 pro is a dramatically larger pre-trained model.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159844)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook

Yeah happy about that, but annoying that google went like a year without releasing a big model

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159850)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: Hateful Cobalt Newt

The 3.5 pro pre-train was apparently a failure (otherwise they would have continued to work to post-train it into something decent). No idea why that happened. 3.1 pro was a good model for a bit but quickly dominated by competitors.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159854)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: Histrionic Mischievous Site Travel Guidebook

Yeah too bad I actually like gemini too. It's personality is less aspie and annoying than the others.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159858)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: Hateful Cobalt Newt

Yeah, that’s why i use Gemini 3.8 flash for stuff that doesn’t require the highest intelligence.

At least Opus 5.5 is writing like a normal person again. I couldn’t stand Opus 5 for anything except coding because of the inscrutable, bizarre writing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159865)



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Date: September 28th, 2026 10:58 PM
Author: ruddy violent spot

The world ain't gonna end itself. Get to it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5907664&forum_id=2#50159851)