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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:01 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house I know XO is the last place to go for help, but I don't know where else to turn. I really want to kill myself. I don't want to go into too much detail, but I am a T10 student with good grades (B+/A-), great extracurricular activities, and am on Law Review. But I have NO job waiting for me when I graduate.
It isn't a personality issue, either. I worked so hard the last 6 years to get to where I am and my world is collapsing around me. I don't know what to do. I can't believe this happened... it certainly wasn't in the brochure. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:03 PM Author: Rebellious Twinkling Uncleanness Its either a personality issue or flame. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586386) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:03 PM Author: Sable beady-eyed reading party tcr. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586389) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:09 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house I guess it's being an idiot in my firm selection. I went to one of the firms that recently collapsed. I picked my firm over much better options, prestige wise (V10's a-plenty), for quality of life reasons. Big mistake, obviously. I went out on the market and no one is looking... nor will they be. What do I do? Is killself really tcr? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586422) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:13 PM Author: Rebellious Twinkling Uncleanness Well that wasn't smart but there are firms that are still hiring for specific practice groups. With your grades, school and LR, you could prolly land one if you hustle. As an aside, when will people realize going to a V50 firm instead of a V10 firm won't give you a better QOL. Even going to a lot of midlaw firms is the same hours for less $. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586445) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:16 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house To be more direct, the quality of life reasons is that my fiance wanted to move near her family after law school and I was indifferent so I turned down those big NYC giants for what I thought was, at the very least, a decent BIGLAW firm that paid market. I didn't expect to have a higher QOL because of work, fwiw.
What firms are still hiring? I look every day to try and find something and can't, so if you have any word PLEASE let me know. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:26 PM Author: Rebellious Twinkling Uncleanness I know some NYC firms are. Do you have friends at all the top10 schools...ask them to check symplicity or their equivalent. I know a kid who got a job based on a posting for another school. Why they just posted it at one T10 is beyond me. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586506) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:54 AM Author: Misanthropic floppy depressive water buffalo "To be more direct"
this would make a better schtick than to be fair's shitty schtick. |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:59 AM Author: Marvelous crackhouse coffee pot it would be more refined, but only because "to be fair" was conjured up into existence in first place. I HOPE THIS HELPS. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587257) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:17 PM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic Are government jobs still hiring (I know nothing about hiring shit). With the recent loan forgiveness changes, if gov is possible, that seems the way to go. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586471) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:22 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Some judges are and some more will come out when Obama becomes president. Even though I don't want to litigate, I'm going to try and clerk but so far it isn't working. I've been rejected by all the government jobs I've applied to so far. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586489) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:12 PM Author: contagious garnet athletic conference address wtf? gov is much less selective than BIGLAW (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586720) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:34 PM Author: titillating yapping meetinghouse prole what's funny is that you probably looked down upon others for going for the prestige. what's even more funny is that those people probably didn't work half as hard as you did during 1L. lol at your life. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586546) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:11 PM Author: contagious garnet athletic conference address (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586717) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:56 PM Author: citrine vigorous dog poop PWN PWN PWN (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586828) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:03 PM Author: Sable beady-eyed reading party If you want something to cheer you up, there was some guy who posted a thread last night called "It's the most fucking wonderful time of the year". Read that and see if you feel any better. HTFH. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586388) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:04 PM Author: Pearly Big Office Quadroon you should see that as a blessing. biglaw fucking sucks. do something else. get deferrments for a year on your loans, and just plot out a different course. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586394) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:13 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house You say that money isn't everything, but I'd like to see you live without it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586450) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:14 PM Author: Pearly Big Office Quadroon no; i'm saying there are other ways to make money. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586452) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:20 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Yeah... I applied all over NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Europe, Asia, Caribbean, etc. Nothing. I really don't know what to do other than jump. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586483) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:07 PM Author: obsidian curious orchestra pit sound barrier LOL at you working so hard to be slightly above median at UVA or something. Autismpwned? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586412) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:11 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house I never said I worked hard in class and I certainly never said I went to UVA. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586432) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:26 PM Author: obsidian curious orchestra pit sound barrier Well what the fuck did you work so hard on then? Also, UVA, Bolt, whatever fuck school you go to, they are all the same. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586507) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:27 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house For all you know, I'm at Columbia. I worked hard mostly in extracurricular activities. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586513) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:30 PM Author: obsidian curious orchestra pit sound barrier Boo fucking hoo, you worked soooo hard on your extracurricular activities. Also, if you were at Columbia you would have said so. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:42 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Ok, same situation even if I didn't work at all. Coming from my school, I should be set. Also, I made the range of law schools I attend wider so no one would figure me out. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586593) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:03 PM Author: obsidian curious orchestra pit sound barrier Maybe if you spent less time working on your precious extracurricular activities and actually put some work into your classes you wouldn't be in this mess. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586702) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:53 PM Author: diverse mischievous temple philosopher-king "It isn't a personality issue"
Says the suicidal person. Get some perspective. You'll be fine.
Just put in the effort looking for a job. |
Date: December 24th, 2008 10:09 PM Author: Sable beady-eyed reading party "But I have NO job waiting for me when I graduate"
Jack in the Box is usually hiring. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:11 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Maybe In-N-Out (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586438) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:32 PM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic Just outted yourself as a Boalt student (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586536) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:36 PM Author: titillating yapping meetinghouse prole titcr (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586564) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:42 PM Author: splenetic cumskin or chapman or whittier. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586601) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:43 PM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic Said T10 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586605) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:11 PM Author: Orange foreskin Now I am hungry. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586439) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:17 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Are you into erotic cannibalism? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586470) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:19 PM Author: Orchid dashing potus bbw If you look to my earlier post today, you'll see the misery you'll be in. Still, at least when you graduate you'll be far closer to law jobs coming back. Plus one the new administration starts, government jobs will hire.
At this point in history, you just gotta hustle i suppose. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:21 PM Author: citrine vigorous dog poop believe me, i was really close to being in your shoes.
only thing i can suggest is to bust your ass to get a clerkship or some sort of government job so that when the economy has sorted itself out and firms are hiring again you will be able to land a job. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:23 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house On that note, I'm meeting with a judge in a few days. But if this doesn't pan out, I just... don't know. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586496) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:39 PM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic Gluck dood. Keep the hope up. If nothing at all pans out, maybe try an LLM/MBA/MA/other postgrad degree for a year or two to bide your time? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586578) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:44 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Thanks. I already have a masters, so it'd be MBA or LLM. Fuck. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586611) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:28 PM Author: Histrionic mint macaca with everyone so coveting their "biglaw" jobs, we should be able to get 2400 hours out of everyone next year, and without all the carping about it being a "sweatshop" and blather about the firm not "respecting" associates. (you have no idea how little respect there is for the garden variety associate) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586517) |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 8:29 AM Author: Concupiscible aggressive patrolman faggot firefighter "(you have no idea how little respect there is for the garden variety associate)"
We're starting to find out... |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:31 PM Author: chestnut deer antler I think my chances for biglaw are quite decent. I am near completing my MA in philosophy, with a GPA between 3.7 and 4.0 (leaning more towards 4.0). In addition, my "soft factors," as I think they are called, are quite decent: I have done a lot of internships and community service throughout Africa and France; and I worked as a portraitist and fiction writer for two years after graduating from college and before attending grad school.
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:35 PM Author: Aphrodisiac headpube yeah but the real question, how good is your fiction? THIS will make or break you. are we talking new yorker quality? if anything less than that say hello to shitlaw. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586554) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:38 PM Author: crusty institution Killself.
The fewer lawyers in practice the better. |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:39 PM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic That's not nice dood. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586583) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 10:42 PM Author: Vibrant step-uncle's house Thanks for at least futilely attempting to bring civility to XOXO (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586600) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:34 PM Author: exciting vermilion brunch Being the master of all pessimists, I didn't believe people when they told me things would work out. But I was in your position a few months ago, and now I'm going to Cambridge or Oxford to do a doctorate in law. If I had gotten what I thought I wanted, I would never have applied, and now I'm much happier. HTH. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586769) |
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Date: December 24th, 2008 11:36 PM Author: nighttime exhilarant haunted graveyard pisswyrm lol, consider yourself to have been bukkaked upon (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10586771) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:03 AM Author: irradiated cocky laser beams international law enforcement agency With your academic background, the alternative isn't being a temp attorney, but of find something good to do. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587099) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:12 AM Author: Swashbuckling mexican stfu you whiny faggot...you act like you signed up for the army or some shit
that said, op should killself |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:13 AM Author: irradiated cocky laser beams international law enforcement agency I wish I were in the army...that way, I could be all that I could be. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587140) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:35 AM Author: Swashbuckling mexican so quit tomorrow or hit the gym or both (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587211) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:37 AM Author: irradiated cocky laser beams international law enforcement agency gotta finish off paying loans (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587215) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:49 AM Author: Swashbuckling mexican gj
start w 5 mins on the elliptical and work your way up...if youre not addicted in 6 wks take up amphetamines |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:57 AM Author: irradiated cocky laser beams international law enforcement agency i do treadmill 3-4x a week.
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:58 AM Author: Swashbuckling mexican you sound like a good dood
try interval training |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:13 AM Author: racy flirting famous landscape painting did Thacher Proffitt just revoke your offer? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587137) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:36 AM Author: citrine vigorous dog poop this is definitely something that should be relayed to ATL (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587212) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 1:32 AM Author: Stirring gold mother Apply to a a fed district court clerkship. You'll buy more time, and you'll open doors to government positions. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587205) |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 5:00 AM Author: Honey-headed church building psychic Hey old friend. How's life? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10587813) |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 12:52 AM Author: Stirring gold mother Hello old friend!
All is well---and it would be better if the search function worked so I could find this thread more easily. I occasionally drop by this forum to see if any familiar faces pop up.
How are things going for you? Did you end up at law school? |
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Date: December 25th, 2008 2:08 AM Author: deep locale boistinker "my world is collapsing around me"
"...it certainly wasn't in the brochure"
These phrases tell you this is shiTTTy flame. |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 1:01 AM Author: very tactful nudist tank Welcome to Legal Aid? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10595534) |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 8:30 AM Author: Concupiscible aggressive patrolman faggot firefighter ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10596469) |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 1:06 AM Author: 180 slate stage sweet tailpipe so you worked at thacher proffitt? or heller or thelen? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=905057&forum_id=2#10595562) |
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Date: December 27th, 2008 7:14 AM Author: vengeful abusive public bath goal in life You know what to do, and you're doing it--apply to clerkships and the other gov jobs that will open up in a new administration. Obviously DOJ honors is out of the question, but I've heard there are branch offices of various gov depts. Can also try DAs offices or city gov offices, or academic jobs like helping run a law school's clinical dept or whatever.
This is only a temporary downturn, and with your credentials you know your options will open up once the economy begins to recover. There are plenty of T4 students who should be thinking "killself" right now... but you ain't one of them. |