Date: October 4th, 2026 3:38 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
He vigorously defends spaceporn, epah, and his best friend is tranny child groomer Lynn Conway . He is also good friends with goy superstar, who admitted on xo to being sexually attracted to his 10 year old niece and reiterated this attraction over and over again - GS and gunner are circlejerking each other ITT, even
He also thinks of himself as promoting conservative values btw
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:59 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
it is my standard tool for dismissal of your intense time wasting instincts; "look, our worldviews are so dissimilar that it's a waste of my time to debate a trans/pedo lover". it's the most efficient dismissal tactic for other readers, hth
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
You're sperging out and resorting to the same tired, inaccurate insults because I took 2 seconds to tell Claude to convert your schizobabble chart into a parody of itself.
Is this how a supreme genius who has uncovered the secret machinations of the world would react?
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:30 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
The biggest midwit tell is converting thoughts into charts that don't actually signify anything. It's what retards do to seem authoritative because charts = serious business. Ever since he's figured out how to make ChatGPT do this he's been spamming them. I've seen like three so far.
It's no wonder he was so persuaded by that chart created by another about who is in control with central bankers at the top.
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:37 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
This isn't credited at all. Feudalism worked completely differently than our socioeconomic system works now. The different "levels" in this graph don't correspond to each other at all, because the two socioeconomic systems are totally different
It's like trying to match a baseball team's players 1 to 1 with a football team's depth chart. Totally incoherent
Not only that, but the "feudalism" levels aren't even correct for feudalism. This graphic suuuuucks and was created by somebody with a Reddit-level superficial non-understanding of history
? no one is saying each section is 1:1, it's just that they're both structured the same with tiny groups with outsized power. the proportions of the population are apparently similar if the numbers in the middle are accurate, but even if they aren't, it's a useful visual that doesn't require the sections to be comparable
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:42 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
The whole point of the graphic is to claim that the two systems have a 1 to 1 corresponding structure. That's why the graphic is constructed like it is
It's not a "useful comparison" at all, because it's completely inaccurate, and the claim that it's making is factually wrong
honestly i never see people reference the historical aspect so much as just citing the corporate feudalism side to remind us who's in power rn
i edited "useful comparison" out - i meant like comparing oligarchy to feudalism on a broad level is useful, but again we don't need the "then vs. now" aspect
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:51 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
What useful information do you think is being communicated here? Like no offense but come on
As far as I can tell you're claiming that it's "useful" to remind people that "powerful people have power." This is a tautology. It tells us nothing. There are always powerful people who have power
This is why shitlibbery sucks so much btw. Even if they didn't have certain hostile and degenerate moral values, they're perma-focused on this kind of stupid "powerful people have power, and that's Bad" framing. It's taken as axiomatic that Powerful People Existing is Bad. It's useless slave morality that can never achieve anything because it's purely reationary with no positive identity or value-claim
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:39 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
No it was an even dumber and more specific one than that. Although that one is quite dumb too. It was more specific and had like Rothschilds and IMF at the top.
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:51 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Central bankers don't have nearly as much power as this chart says
The relationships amongst the elite are much more complex than an ordered hierarchy like this. Like the Consuela shit, this is, in the broadest sense, somewhat true. But it breaks down pretty quickly. Like, if you think Kevin Warsh has more power and influence than Elon Musk (tier 3!) or Donald Trump (tier 4) you're nuts.
actually the one i've seen more often has billionaires at the top, which seems way more accurate. i was conflating this one and that. lemme find the other
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:06 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
only to an extent. when musk bought twitter he was forced to go to poland "jewish death camps" with various rabbis, then forced to go to israel, then forced to give up censorship control of the platform to the ADL
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:04 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
But it's the same thing. There are plenty of entertainers that wield much power power and influence than billionaires, to say nothing of elected officials and some of the other tiers.
The problem is that this is trying to contort the fact that people tend to use their power, wealthy and influence for their (and consequently their classes) self-interest into some sort of strict feudal hierarchy. But that's not how it works. Some entertainers and other public figures without much money wield enormous influence while some billionaires pretty much mind their own business.
Nick Fuentes and Destiny wield more influence than the Walton kids. Obama has never been a billionaire but he certainly wields more power than almost all of them (individually, not against billionaires as a class).
obviously there are complex relations between all of the levels and individuals can have exceptional influence for their category but messy things can be accurately sorted
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Yeah I agree. But the devil's in the details. Denying that this chart is accurate isn't the same as denying wealth and influence translates into power over others.
Anyway, Consuela's chart was even more insane and had specific organizations listed and was much more official looking. Like, your chart is inaccurate, but I'm not sure if it was ever intended to be that strictly interpreted. Consuela's was like Charlie from Always Sunny's schizo chart with different organizations and families connected in a bizarre hierarchy.
I'm suprised he hasn't poasted it yet since he spams it all the time. But when he gets triggered just starts sperging and abandons trying to defend the merits of his babble.
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:01 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
The whole "point" of unencumbered capital ruling the world is that there is no hierarchy. No borders, no laws, no morals, no particularities, etc
The idea that there is a top-down hierarchy that Rules The World in 2026 is not just inaccurate in the specific, but it is also inaccurate and backwards in the broad general sense. It belies a total misunderstanding of the world. Like thinking that you win a chess game by checkmating your own king rather than the enemy king
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:04 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
or the heavily centralized worldwide response to COVID.
goy superstar, who you are responding to, is 10x jewish heart attack jabbed, a 100% virus-bad believer, and does whatever the MSM propaganda outlets tell him to do, in addition to being an incest pedophile
COVID response could be conceived of as a lot of distinct powerful entities making bad decisions somewhat separately with some transparent collaboration
the WEF is literally rich people getting in a room deciding worldwide policy
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
The WEF is a joke. It is not a power wielding entity. It does not dictate policy for anyone. It is a vehicle for sinecures and minted status for "policy wonk" types and sons, daughters, and wives of people who actually have power
You should unironically talk to an LLM about this. It will completely dismantle the notion that the "WEF" is an organ of power. There's a reason why consuela completely stopped blogging about this topic after he started using LLMs
not a great use case for LLMs, even lightly-aligned ones, because their training data is mostly people spouting official narratives and talking points. just because that's the bulk of what's published.
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:32 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
It's a great use case for LLMs actually. WEF publications are all public. Almost every seminar and meeting of theirs is live streamed. The information is all public and accessible by LLMs. LLMs can understand the WEF and how it works better than any individual human can, even the people who participate in the WEF personally
The WEF is not a governing body. It's a hangout for high status and powerful people. The people who attend WEF gatherings make policy. The WEF itself does not
"The people who attend WEF gatherings make policy. The WEF itself does not." - then we agree! the policy doesn't materialize on the spot. the point is that the people who make policy get together in a room and decide what policy to make, then they go their separate ways and wield their influence to make it happen. or maybe the decisions are being made in private and that's just where they hang out and drip feed us some info on what they're doing in back rooms. either way you're admitting that this group exists and is powerful! and you can infer that they collude.
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:39 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
Except this is completely different from a hierarchical structure of world power, which is what this entire thread is about, what consuela claims as a model of the world, and what me and gunnerattt have been mocking, defaming, and threatening
It's a committee structure of power. Not a hierarchical one. The rule of capital is necessarily a rule by committee
yeah idk i think you guys are interpreting it too literally. i'm sure Consuela would admit there are complicated relationships between and within the groups and there's not a strict hierarchy. but messy things can be sorted based on the directions these people's decisions flow overall. like each individual has a sphere of influence but if you quantified the amount of impact within each sphere you'd get a general order of who the biggest players are. people who make monetary decisions affect a large number of people a great deal. i definitely agree it's rule by committee a lot of the time.
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:45 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
yes, its a directional heuristic about degree of influence/power and the underlying relationships are complicated and messy. gunner/GS take the most myopic, literal interpretation possible and then run with it, because they are both dumb. with respect to the rothschilds themselves (who i see at the very top of the pyramid), i pretty much agree with escape key's interpretation of how they operate here:
very interesting so far, tyft. i see this relationship is covered extensively later in the article but the first line of this email speaks volumes: https://ibb.co/xKZYytKD
Date: October 4th, 2026 5:02 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
This is a classic consuela response but plus 25 iq and in good faith
"Well, ok, actually you're right, the claim I made isn't true. But it's directionally kind of true. The details don't really matter"
It's not directionally true though! Like the biggest *structural* problem with the world today is that THERE IS NO HIERARCHY, so no one has any RESPONSIBILITY. No one with power is ACCOUNTABLE since there is no HIERARCHY. "Decisions" are made by committee and all the accountability and responsibility and legibility disintegrates and is watered away
The hierarchical model of the world is FALSE! And your own evidence (the WEF) is the proof of it. That should give you serious pause about your world-model
again, i'm seeing it more as an ordering based on quantifying the impact of groups of individuals based on one directional, weighted graph connecting everyone and everyone their decisions impact. it doesn't preclude arrows going all over the place between different groups, it's just an overall ranking. that's just how i see it, and Consuela is also saying u guys are being too literal about it being hierarchical so he's probably not too far off from that
Date: October 4th, 2026 5:11 PM Author: Heritage American Finn
You should look into understanding capital and power as cybernetic structure. I can tell that you would immediately grasp it based on the language you're using in your posts. It is the correct model of capital and power in the modern era imo
yeah this model seems very useful too. i think it's consistent with what i'm saying. and consistent with all the blackpilled conspiracies i believe in - because think about who's designing and building out the systems through which capital and power flow... historically bankers; now also billionaires and tech oligarchs...
Date: October 10th, 2026 1:51 PM Author: Richard Ames
Groups like the WEF and the BIS are basically just coordination mechanisms and places where some elements are hashed out. But the key decisions are absolutely controlled by a smaller group. Maybe it’s not just Lord Rothschild himself, but there are probably 10 to 15 key players guiding the general direction.
Unironically The Patriots from MGS2 is a good proxy for how the world is run.
Underlying conditions dictate the realm of what is possible and then a smaller group (including people like Larry Fink and certain other key finance and intelligence figures, select think tanks) provide directional options to explore within the realm of what is possible - such that it will continue to benefit the people running the system.
I don’t agree with all of my nigga Consuela’s perspectives, but I think he has a lot of good points. My core difference with him is that I think the super elites are still beholden, and reacting, to underlying factors (energy supply, population dynamics)…but the general directions that world governments move is absolutely kept within bounds governed by a small group at the top that seems to operate in key functional choke points (Blackrock, BIS, intelligence).
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:40 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
90% of consuelian central banker babble can be disproved by watching like a two hour video on international monetary policy or something. So much of this shit is people just making an insane logical leap:
Premise 1: Money translates into power and influence
Premise 2: Organizations exist that create monetary policy
Conclusion: These organizations MUST BE THE MOST POWERFUL INSTITUTIONS ON THE PLANET!
Nevermind the fact that not even Marxist scholars that understand the system very well and hate capitalism our socioeconomic systems think these conspiracies have any merit.
It's like concluding Kathrin Glock is the most powerful person in the world because the Glock 19 is most common gun involved in homicides.
every powerful individual has a sphere of influence. these people's spheres are overlapping and their decisions affect each other, so yes it's very complicated. but theoretically you can roughly quantify the amount of influence in each sphere (how many people are affected by their decisions and how much those people are affected) to get a rough ordering. the people who control the flow of money and make decisions about monetary policy affect a lot of people a lot. makes sense they'd be at the top.
Date: October 4th, 2026 4:56 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
That's like saying restaurant employees control the food supply.
No, it doesn't make sense, because often functionaries in a system are managed and have their powers constrained by others. For example, POTUS has the power to remove Federal Reserve officers and the Federal Reserve was created and can be amended or abolished by Congress. It's not like the Fed can just willy-nilly do whatever it pleases.
There's a reason why the Treasury Secretary is considered a much more prestigious and powerful position than Federal Reserve chairman. And why neither is considered close to POTUS or House/Senate majority leader in terms of power and prestige.
obviously the POTUS has a ton of influence but lol you're thinking too small if you really think Senate majority leader is THAT big a deal in the scheme of the trajectory of the planet
Date: October 4th, 2026 5:19 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
Yes, bureaucrats like the federal reserve personnel are essentially actors, like politicians. They are figureheads with little to no power, and they take their directions from above. Powell is a lackey “yes” man , they tell him to raise or lower rates and he says “sir yes sir” and makes up some nonsense for public consumption
The main takeaway from all these charts is just that power is controlled in differing degrees by very tiny groups of people and that there is an inverse correlation between amount of power and number of people. This is fine as a generalization, but extremely reductive in unhelpful ways. If we are recursive to reductive systems for helpful models, I still prefer (my understanding of) early Yarvin shit--culture is king, and all of these individuals are ultimately downstream of it in the ways that matter most. Regardless, the only real draw of the feudal comparison is the intended shock and emotional appeal. You could compare most systems throughout history. It comes off as very lame to sperg out trying to map details from one of any of these systems to the other in terms of minute details rather than the broadest insight that there is a pyramid shape.
yeah i mean i generally see it referenced as a reminder that billionaires and bankers have power over elected officials, because that's a lesson that keeps coming up.
the one i like most has "billionaires" at the top rather than "central bankers" and the relative positions of the groups on the right comes up a lot. the historical comparison is 100% for shock and emotional appeal i agree. comparing today's corporate oligarchy with feudalism is v evocative. it resonates with those of us who see things in terms of our fate being in the hands of a small group at the top.
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:43 PM Author: Accurate at predicting vs Measures of probability (gunneratttt)
Consuela will say shit like: The two parties are controlled by the elites, the elites are Jewish reverse vampires that conspired to pretend the flu is a different virus so people will take FoxDie from Metal Gear Solid 2, and things have been getting progressively worse because of the elite self-interest.
Now, you, me, and the vast majority of people believe prong 1 and 3 to some extent. The problem with consuela is prong 2.
Date: October 4th, 2026 3:46 PM Author: arousing impertinent goal in life heaven
Gunnerattt is incapable of articulating my positions because he is too stupid. I am not intentionally insulting him here, it is a basic truth unfortunately. You can look to the penis or MIg if you want a better (still inaccurate) representation of my views from a negative/critical perspective
Date: October 9th, 2026 9:40 PM Author: exciting hell idiot
did the box have a kid or something? she seems much dumber and less analytically capable than when she was young. she was always retarded and poorly educated about politics and economics but she's hovering around reddit levels of comprehension these days. mongoloid mommy brain rewiring would at least explain the decline.