I plan to stop drinking and workout until next year. So far I do 30dips and 15 pull-ups. If I start going to the gym might be doing weighted dips and pull-ups. What else actually makes visible change? I don't do squats because it's gay and don't want that weight on my neck.. are deadlifts good for anything? I feel I can do them correctly but seems it serves no useful purpose..
Date: November 14th, 2026 12:29 PM Author: Lucy Mercer (Safari)
You definitely should squat but if it's too uncomfortable for you (the weight isnt on your neck) you need to be doing leg press or hack squat machines brother.
Deadlifts are very developmental but at your age might not be worth the risk. You can do "back extensions" using the back extension stand or ghd stand. And add leg curls, and you will have lower risk substitution for deadlifts.
You need to be pushing weight Overhead for shoulder development also. When it comes to physical appearance, straight arm lateral raise movements are considered essential for shoulder width (and shoulder to waist ratio)
When you come back to the states up north for work I can take you as a guest to the gym for free and we can run through some stuff
Date: November 14th, 2026 12:53 PM Author: little man
I also only do pull ups and rows for my back and leg press for legs. Can’t stand any sort of pull or leg work so I don’t do it (though I play rugby twice a week so I’m getting some leg movement in).
Thanks man! I no longer work in that area, so unlikely to come down there. I actually haven't really been to a gym last 5 years, just use a treadmill at a building gym and pullups/dips outside. Do overhead raises actually add something to dips? Seems dips is the more natural exercise since no weight on top of the body(same reason I don't do squats) and could put a 45lbs plate between legs. I'll try to do lateral raises if it actually isolates deltoid, but it's probably a tiny weight like 10lbs.
I can do deadlines with good form since I did it in high school and could probably do 300lbs. But my back could snap in half just due to age, and same as back extensions, what's the point of accumulating muscle in lower back, no one will notice it. My belarus exgf kept saying I have beautiful muscle and touching my upper chest/frontal deltoid. Not sure what's the purpose of exercising lower body
Date: November 14th, 2026 1:03 PM Author: Lucy Mercer (Safari)
It may be a euro vs american thing or an age thing but women frequently direct their hands to my posterior chain under certain circumstances.
I have a euro wife and spend lots of time in Europe and the bird leg look is definitely a thing over there. So it may be cultural but if you have noticeably undersized legs in the US you do not get respect from women or men. There are guys like Greg o Gallagher who talk about not training legs, but actually have athletic legs from years of training legs.
PT's often recommend lower body and spinal erector training to maximize function and longevity during the aging process as well. As an ISSA certified guy I would recommend aging clients train only lower body and back, rather than only upper body anterior, if for some reason they insisted on one or the other.
Overhead presses will add something to dips due to the tricep engagement but the main purpose is to develop anterior (primarily) and medial (secondarily) shoulders (deltoids.) Esthetically the shoulder muscles are actually bigger than the chest, and if you have no front deltoid, there will be no separation visible at the outside of your chest muscle which will hide your chest development. Your anxiety about having downward force over the top of the spine is not logical -- compression effects are not going to occur until you start using weights in the 100 to 200 kg range at minimum. Spinal issues can certainly develop with bending movements below those weights, but thats not an issue with Overhead press, especially seated with free weights or a machine.
Horizontal rows are recommended also. Guys who are relatively new to weights should really work in a progressive set or two on everything because it wont take much to grow. Leaving out muscle groups is indicated for experienced bodybuilders or in some cases for women with a phobia of upper body muscularity or pre existing upper body imbalance.
Thanks, yeah I may try overhead presses. But previously I only did it as a clean&jerk exercise. Is it actually more effective if I use lower weight but slow movement? I also have a kettlebell at my parents 16 and 24kg, i wonder if clean and jerk with that is as good as controlled overhead presses. With 16kg I can do slow controlled presses. I doubt that I'm at risk of having bird legs unless I actually add 20lbs of weight, all in upper body.
What about just looking at your body and addressing the weak spots. like if you're Barrel Chested with weak arms just focus more on arms. and vice-versa.
I think I need to drop a little fat for my 6pack abs and I need to gain some muscle in shoulders and chest. Don't see the point of leg workouts at all. I can run and most people that lift are disabled with bad hips/knees at my age.
No I mean the people who go to the gym and then go to a doctor and complain about their bad hips and knees. Back in med school I was on ortho rotation and the ortho told me this about the patients "price to pay for lifting". Most people that don't lift don't complain about their back or joints at this age..
Back when I was in college, rowing machine(erg) and xcountry skiing were all I needed for big shoulders. I sometimes did arms only skiing for miles.. and the only time I injured shoulders were from xcountry skiing, not from weighted dips..
If I meet her ever again, I'd like her to notice. Though each time I met her before she felt up my upper chest and said "damn you are in incredible shape". Back when I was actually in shape I prided myself on my lats and abs.
Also my exgf told me whatever I do is useless unless I shave/laser removal hair from armpits and chest
I'm thinking of doing lunges with dumbells, i.e. walk like a duck for 20 steps.. it definitely makes me sore. But what exactly does shoulder press, squats , bench do aesthetically? Bunch of old ugly fat man do it