there's no chance we turn things around without getting money out of politics, and this would go the furthest toward that in one move imo.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50020377)

on the other..... men vote for Republicans, which is also retarded

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50020411)

The Admission of Foreigners into the Several States shall be regulated with due Regard to the Wages, Dwellings, Security, and general Welfare of the Citizens; nor shall any Employer procure dependent Labour from abroad merely to diminish the Price or Independence of Labour at home.

No Citizen shall be excluded from any Profession, Office, Clerkship, or Employment by reason of Want of Family, Patronage, fashionable Manner, Clique, or private Acquaintance, where his Learning, Judgment, and Capacity may be fairly ascertained by Examination or the Work of his own Hand.

No Jew within the Jurisdiction of These United States shall be denied the equal Protection of Person, Property, Worship, Education, Employment, or public Office; nor shall Threats or Violence against Jews be excused by political Cause, foreign Controversy, collective Accusation, or any Pretence.

A well guarded Election, being necessary to the Preservation of a free Republic, no Person shall collect, possess, or deliver the Ballot of another, save a Member of the same Household, a lawful Caregiver, or an Officer appointed by Law; nor shall any Reward be given or received for the gathering of Ballots, and the Chain of Custody of every Vote shall be secured by public and equal Rules

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The thirteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

The nineteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50020632)

also, I'm not a lib

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50021172)

Heard JD Vance rightfully report on Rogan how housing costs are finally not rising anymore because we don't have a flood of illegal immigrants coming over and renting / buying (often times with government money). Our schools are flatlining (and like 70% of kids are on free lunch), etc.

I wonder if you get rid of birthright citizenship, don't let non-citizens vote, restrict government benefits, and then tax their income at 2x the normal rate (with a min of 30%) - if that doesn't solve a lot of the problems...

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50022771)

Jfc wtf is wrong with u risk-averse faggots. The actual, literal Congress--giving answers with their IRL names attached--would brainstorm bigger and more daring proposals than this.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50023120)

Even if it's just a single year cleaning Hmong language branded cigarette butts out of national parks, providing shock labor for rectifying national disasters, and telling tourists not to get gored by buffalo it would restore the actual value of the vote and ensure that fickle magpie people aren't deciding crucial elections while cutting back on some of the dirt and grime of the electoral circus

Hardship, poverty etc waivers are a necessity and should not be onerously withheld or subject to political-partisan scrutiny but should require perhaps some face to face interviewing and forms to fill out as well as a "thoughtful and sincere essay required" portion as to explain to the proctor of the state as to why the franchise is being pursued. This portion would be judged very lightly and the main thing to judge within would just be 1. sincere effort and 2. some basis of clear thinking regarding the topic from the interviewed. "I am seeking this to engage in political life" ✅ "I want to give back my time to the nation writ large and its government" ✅ "I am disappointed with the current quality of government and wish to express this and enact major---even radical, including the repeal of this proposed amendment--- change via the vote" ✅ without question or exceptional scrutiny "My neighbor/uncle/son votes Dempublican and I want to vote Republicrat to balance it out (i.e. spite them.") ❌ "I am seeking the preferential treatment that this status will get for me in the job market" ❌ with an attendant investigation launched into the complaints of the essay author and more over

There must be a time/effort cost associated with the prospect. Slots open up as jobs open up and you are considered to have the franchise so long as you're locked into the queue. Very possible to be in the queue and never be called for civil service as well; the franchise is granted so long as the attempt has been made. The private sector should be expected to do their civic duty and make transitioning in and out of life prior simple and painless (scaled exceptions for smaller businesses, of course) and this is a non-negotiable necessity that will weed out who does business in America because they care about the land and its people vs those who do it just to make a quick buck. Costs can be defrayed in part by private-public sponsorships with major firms and some classy, optimistic EPCOT style advertising/branding can be allowed for to provide some extra PR value. Not sure about monetary reimbursement during the period of being held at the convenience of the US government but budgets can be appropriated in portion from departments using this labor pool and it could perhaps defray general costs and lower the overall inefficiency of the state by departments being able to fill out costly permanent employee slots and all the heavy budget drain that it entails for untrained/semi-skilled positions with this labor pool

Shouldn't be any moral value attached to this process by the propaganda arms of the state btw nor should non-voters be treated as a lesser breed of people. Explicit private sector discrimination on this basis would be strictly disallowed. Just a simple risks-benefits analysis made publicly available and let people decide for themselves. Having the franchise will not be necessary to run as a congressman, perhaps make it a necessity for the senate, perhaps not. Lower/upper house distinction needs to be requantified and senate prestige needs to be restored after decades of scoundrels.

Incidentally this would also do much to restore the country's image amongst the youth and help people who'd never get a chance otherwise to spend a year potentially seeing just exactly how beautiful, spiritually rich, and truly culturally diverse the natural land of this country actually is. "America as filtered through FOX news or CNN" is a very different concept from "America, the land, the people, the nation-as-it-exists". The former I curse daily but the latter will never leave me no matter where I am

There are many, many unenumerated benefits to this sort of policy, left unspoken, and I think it being a primarily civil service role will mollify all but the most hardcore of the anarchists on a portion of the left as most who think with a state model will probably see more benefit than malus in the concept of the vote as a reward for, as best as you can, providing directly to the general welfare or civic buy-in for the right to participate in the electoral process. I think sometimes that perhaps this was an end goal that JFK and his type had in mind for institutions like the peace corps. No pro-America propaganda needed for this to work. Just show the people what the country really is on the ground and the land, the fields, the parks, dams, great infrastructure installations, speedy and comprehensive public response to natural disasters, ambitions, efforts, etc of the nation look like and let them aid and improve a bit of any of these things and they'll be convinced

There are probably all sorts of errors with the implementation but the fundamental idea that gaining the franchise should incur some kind of personal investment is probably a sound one. It's an intrinsically "political" program but otherwise shouldn't be trammeled by state propaganda beyond the minimal required for public awareness

The current model has much pro and con as well but the fatigue people are feeling atm about the blind, universal franchise is real and probably needs to be addressed one way or another or at the very least some national conversation needs to be had on the topic. Current voters probably grandfathered in but this is up for debate

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5885593&forum_id=2#50233942)