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Most impactful small country in world history?

My two nominees are Portugal and Sweden. Obviously the furth...
Pontificating ocher university
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embarrassed to the bone site
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Forgot Portugal gave the world cans of sardines. Although TE...
Pontificating ocher university
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embarrassed to the bone site
  07/28/26
pop music?
Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake
  07/28/26
ABBA, Ace of Base, Robyn, and virtually every major hit by T...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Pop music existed before ABBA. Christ, the Beatles are essen...
Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake
  07/28/26
Not really though. The Beatles were a Skiffle act that branc...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Wrong! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_music
Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake
  07/28/26
yeah I obviously wasn't talking about the Brill Building era...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Spain
Galvanic Smoky Meetinghouse Kitty Cat
  07/28/26
To big fam but obviously Spain and Italy mog here
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Vatican
curious overrated telephone toaster
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Onyx excitant piazza
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flushed vivacious stage
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netherlands basically invented modern glocap and spread it a...
Startling useless brakes
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Twice the population of Sweden/Portugal but fair point. They...
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Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake
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canary theater stock car
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Netherlands and Portugaul are good answers. Sweden has inven...
Ebony Exhilarant Trailer Park
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gunneratttt
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curious overrated telephone toaster
  07/28/26
Don't sleep on the Dutch. Very important in the rise of capi...
Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake
  07/28/26
o7s in the chat for the Dutch.
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Someone said Netherlands above
canary theater stock car
  07/28/26
yes the whole trend of couches/chairs/beds that give you bac...
tripping unholy lettuce lodge
  07/28/26
The irony is that the founder lived most of his life in Swit...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
How is this an example of irony?
Stirring base
  07/28/26
he built his business on the back of Swedish heritage and cu...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
if youre including impactful in negative ways its israel i b...
spectacular pearl chapel
  07/28/26
they don't have a long enough track record. Also the DEagle ...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
i have no idea what youre trying to say. year for year they ...
spectacular pearl chapel
  07/28/26
whom did they damage
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
the us
spectacular pearl chapel
  07/28/26
They’re literally actively engaged in what has been ju...
flushed vivacious stage
  07/28/26
Oh no, not the brown clowns!
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Well if you assume Israel = Jews, then my God do they have a...
canary theater stock car
  07/28/26
They only did shit to brownoids and the economy. NBD.
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
If we're counting Judea over time it becomes hard to deny pe...
gunneratttt
  07/28/26
Greece
Maroon Duck-like Indian Lodge
  07/28/26
yeah that's a good one. although how small was it really at ...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
In terms of XO content, probably Andorra
Big step-uncle's house
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embarrassed to the bone site
  07/28/26
eastern point of view, hong kong.
Drunken bistre jew mad cow disease
  07/28/26
can you elaborate more? I don't know shit about Asian histor...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Venice
Lascivious doobsian bawdyhouse
  07/28/26
Pre 1700 definitely. Less so post 1800.
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Denmark if it counts DUH
Sapphire vigorous office legend
  07/28/26
Explain some of their achievements besides whatever the fuck...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Basically conquered England multiple times and guarded white...
Sapphire vigorous office legend
  07/28/26
what was like their biggest battle they won to protect the w...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
If we're going pound for pound champ, it's England with a bu...
Ebony Exhilarant Trailer Park
  07/28/26
100% Agree however for purposes of this exercise Nederland i...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Yeah this is the answer, lol at the other answers ITT.
180 cruise ship old irish cottage
  07/28/26
It's too yuge to qualify
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
And Sweden isn't? huh?
180 cruise ship old irish cottage
  07/28/26
UK has 7 times the population of the Kingdom of Sweden hth
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Vatican City
Onyx excitant piazza
  07/28/26
Post 1500, though? Probably not...
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Macedonia
godawful bright really tough guy range
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culturally, iceland. from the old sagas to modern pop music...
Bearded legal warrant point
  07/28/26
Strongman competitions
Pontificating ocher university
  07/28/26
Israel and it isn’t close
plum magical market
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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

My two nominees are Portugal and Sweden. Obviously the further you go back Portugal takes it with the whole Age of Exploration shit. But Sweden invented Zyn, pop music, furniture, matches that don't explode, and file sharing. It's gotta be close!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029495)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029497)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:28 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Forgot Portugal gave the world cans of sardines. Although TECHNICALLY a French invention.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029500)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:39 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029526)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake

pop music?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029504)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

ABBA, Ace of Base, Robyn, and virtually every major hit by Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Britney Spears, Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Ariana Grande, and The Weeknd were written by a Swede. Country with 10 million people account for a massive percentage of American pop music. In deference to Norway, they wrote most of Rhianna's bangers.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029513)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake

Pop music existed before ABBA. Christ, the Beatles are essentially a pop band

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029518)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Not really though. The Beatles were a Skiffle act that branched out into Rock n Roll. Bubble gum pop as we know it is a product of the nineteen hundred and nineties. it's not even disputable. The Mall would not be the Same without Scandinavians.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029530)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake

Wrong!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_music

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029546)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:45 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

yeah I obviously wasn't talking about the Brill Building era but the widely repurposed namesake for the type of Britney/Xtina garbage we grew up on.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029552)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Galvanic Smoky Meetinghouse Kitty Cat

Spain

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029514)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

To big fam but obviously Spain and Italy mog here

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029515)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: curious overrated telephone toaster

Vatican

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029519)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:08 PM
Author: Onyx excitant piazza



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030420)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: flushed vivacious stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030483)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:37 AM
Author: Startling useless brakes

netherlands basically invented modern glocap and spread it across the planet

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029520)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:41 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Twice the population of Sweden/Portugal but fair point. They also invented Protestantism as we know it. They were the first to refute Predestination while still maintaining a lot of Calvin's Reformed Theology.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029535)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029539)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: canary theater stock car



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029542)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: Ebony Exhilarant Trailer Park

Netherlands and Portugaul are good answers. Sweden has invented some interesting things, but hasn't really moved the needle on world history in the same way.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030358)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030382)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:59 PM
Author: curious overrated telephone toaster



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030394)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:41 AM
Author: Hairraiser Giraffe Corn Cake

Don't sleep on the Dutch. Very important in the rise of capitalism and they had an overseas empire as well. They also played a major role in Europe (revolt against the Hapsburgs, sitting on the throne of England and the Glorious Revolution, etc.) starting around 16th century that Portugal really did not have.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029536)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:42 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

o7s in the chat for the Dutch.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029541)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: canary theater stock car

Someone said Netherlands above

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029545)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: tripping unholy lettuce lodge

yes the whole trend of couches/chairs/beds that give you backaches and the frame cracks after a few months, while putting ppl who made actual high quality shit out of business was a very impactful movement. good job sweden. you deserve every last muslim you wave in

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029544)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:43 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

The irony is that the founder lived most of his life in Switzerland for tax purposes LOL

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029547)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: Stirring base

How is this an example of irony?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029558)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 12:00 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

he built his business on the back of Swedish heritage and culture and then moved to a tax haven so he wouldn't have to pay back into it ig

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029586)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: spectacular pearl chapel

if youre including impactful in negative ways its israel i believe

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029557)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

they don't have a long enough track record. Also the DEagle did not meaningfully change the world despite what some fans of CounterStrike might have you believe.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029563)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: spectacular pearl chapel

i have no idea what youre trying to say. year for year they have done massive damage.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029566)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:54 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

whom did they damage

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029572)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:56 AM
Author: spectacular pearl chapel

the us

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029576)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:41 PM
Author: flushed vivacious stage

They’re literally actively engaged in what has been judicially determined to be a genocide as we speak.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030486)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:47 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Oh no, not the brown clowns!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030493)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:59 AM
Author: canary theater stock car

Well if you assume Israel = Jews, then my God do they have a negative track record on the world.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029583)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 12:00 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

They only did shit to brownoids and the economy. NBD.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029588)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:49 PM
Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt)

If we're counting Judea over time it becomes hard to deny period.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030496)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:50 AM
Author: Maroon Duck-like Indian Lodge

Greece

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029562)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:51 AM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

yeah that's a good one. although how small was it really at the height of it's power? It was like a huge empire. It's only small w/r/t today.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029565)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: Big step-uncle's house

In terms of XO content, probably Andorra

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029567)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:53 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone site



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029568)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 11:56 AM
Author: Drunken bistre jew mad cow disease

eastern point of view, hong kong.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029575)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 12:01 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

can you elaborate more? I don't know shit about Asian history. What all did HK do?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50029592)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: Lascivious doobsian bawdyhouse

Venice

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030351)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Pre 1700 definitely. Less so post 1800.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030427)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:43 PM
Author: Sapphire vigorous office legend

Denmark if it counts DUH

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030361)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Explain some of their achievements besides whatever the fuck is an æbleskive

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030424)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: Sapphire vigorous office legend

Basically conquered England multiple times and guarded white civilization at critical times.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030843)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

what was like their biggest battle they won to protect the world

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030851)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: Ebony Exhilarant Trailer Park

If we're going pound for pound champ, it's England with a bullet. They're on a small island. Their population is about 1/6 of the US, less than 1/20 of India and China. And despite that, they are the undisputed POTUS and driving force of world history, civilization, commerce, and industry from, let's say, 1588 (defeat of the Spanish Armada) until they decided to give it all up circa 1945.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030381)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:12 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

100% Agree however for purposes of this exercise Nederland is the maximum size. But no disagreement in general.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030432)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: 180 cruise ship old irish cottage

Yeah this is the answer, lol at the other answers ITT.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030449)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:35 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

It's too yuge to qualify

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030478)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:43 PM
Author: 180 cruise ship old irish cottage

And Sweden isn't? huh?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030489)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:48 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

UK has 7 times the population of the Kingdom of Sweden hth

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030494)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:08 PM
Author: Onyx excitant piazza

Vatican City

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030419)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Post 1500, though? Probably not...

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030425)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:20 PM
Author: godawful bright really tough guy range

Macedonia

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030450)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: Bearded legal warrant point

culturally, iceland. from the old sagas to modern pop music. all from a tiny population on a frigid island.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030491)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 5:49 PM
Author: Pontificating ocher university

Strongman competitions

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030495)



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Date: July 28th, 2026 9:13 PM
Author: plum magical market

Israel and it isn’t close

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887034&forum_id=2#50030857)