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Date: January 27th, 2025 9:59 AM Author: charcoal jewess because Nvidia isn't who would be negatively affected by this development--you still need GPUs to run this shit and a lot of them. it's all the US tech cos pushing closed source models trying to pretend they have a moat who are the ones that may be in trouble (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48594256) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: Seedy orchestra pit CR also after this there’s zero chance of Trump getting tricked or cucking on all the export restrictions that help NVIDIA more than any other company. OpenAI might be fucked, though, and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving Jewish pedophile. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48594903) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 10:15 PM Author: Infuriating Idiotic Boltzmann how is deepseek performing like this if they're chinese though, isn't there a possibility that they DON'T have a ton of nvidia GPUs and figured out a cheaper/simpler way to operate? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48596700) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: alcoholic plum messiness As a big NVDA holder, this is the first time in a long while I am worried about holding the stock
If the DeepSeek architecture is what they say it is, you will need close to an order of magnitude less GPUs. You will still need NVDA, but instead of buying 1000 cards, you will only need like 50 to accomplish the same goal
Needless to say, given the sales growth expectations embedded in NVDA at their current price, this could be a catastrophic re-adjustment
If we see a major US player move to the DeepSeek architecture I would start to freak out |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 1:22 PM Author: Seedy orchestra pit Yes. Also when have the Chinese not been at least 50% full of shit with this kind of big announcement that they are ackshhhually way ahead all of a sudden. But even to the extent that this is the medium-long term it’s like saying I don’t want to invest in cloud-optimized servers in 2012 because the advances in virtualization will eat all the demand, when the much more likely outcome at the time was public cloud growing bigger and faster. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48594912) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 2:05 PM Author: alcoholic plum messiness It could be feasible that budgets remain the same, and players use the efficiency savings to simply scale more like you say. However, this could be (for a simple example) going from 1000 GPUs to 500 GPUs and still getting 10x the efficiency as previous architectures. Some players may view that as good enough given manpower limitations etc. There are just not that many companies out there with the capex budgets to be buying chips like this at scale, and those that do exist are already doing so.
And in that case NVDA could miss estimates by 50% down the line. Given it’s valuation multiple they can’t be anything short of perfect to keep rising
Fundamentally, this introduces a lot of uncertainty in trajectories which will cause some people to cash out and wait until it becomes a bit more clear
I am speaking about tactical investing here, and not long term buy and hold |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Sepia hateful prole how is deepseek so efficient? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48594974) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 2:10 PM Author: alcoholic plum messiness 8 bit vs 32 bit floating number calculations for a dramatic memory efficiency gain as well as 93% compression on key value indices which eat up VRAM. Also multi-token prediction which effectively doubles inference speed
The chinks basically had a GPU and Memory bottleneck due to sanctions and architected themselves out of it |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 2:52 PM Author: razzle trailer park twinkling uncleanness What DeepSeek did could be done on the best chips now too. That could be way beyond what DeepSeek is capable of. We’ll see what unfolds. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48595253) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: flickering thirsty knife locus The marginal benefit you get from that may not be impressive relative to the cost. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48596473) |
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i also sold MDB and put it in NVDA, since then MDB was up as much as 8% while NVDA shares i got are down 5%
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Date: January 27th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: charcoal jewess in light of recent developments I've changed course and sold all NVDA -- actually just sold all US stocks. TT is the Jim Cramer of zozol so I have high confidence in this move. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5671126&forum_id=2#48595228) |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: Cracking stead death wish using a distilled version of R1 locally is like installing a retarded xo poaster.
to run deepseek-r1:671b you need NVIDIA chips - the market wants AI running locally not in China or Silicon Valley. |
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Date: January 27th, 2025 4:46 PM Author: charcoal jewess it isn't surprising at all. that's what's so crazy about this.
people are just flipping out because the team that happened to do it was in china, although this could have just as well happened in france or russia or meta's open source models or whatever |
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