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Should I go to law school or stick with consulting? (Cost benefit analysis)

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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
go to law school
wine station
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
you won't last that long in consulting. this is also stup...
Underhanded clown tanning salon
  11/29/16
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
learn how to do proper analysis and maybe I'll hire you.
Underhanded clown tanning salon
  11/29/16
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Cobalt Razzle Main People Hall
  02/14/17
either way, stfu about it
pink buck-toothed church building
  11/29/16
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
while we're at it can you bash your head against the sidewal...
Underhanded clown tanning salon
  11/29/16
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Naked dilemma background story
  11/30/16
yfwgi but it's unlikely you'll end up in biglaw given your a...
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  11/29/16
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
It kind of is, though the benefit is marginal past 2 yrs. on...
Electric library preventive strike
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thirsty gas station
  11/29/16
What year did you graduate UG? If you will be ~28 at OCI you...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
Would be 34
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
Yeah plenty of people at my non-HYS t14 were around that age...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
180
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
They're right about the senior associates though, but ymmv o...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
How was northwestern
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
CCN, hoe. I'll start saying t6 like a true faggot.
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
How was NYU?
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
Is that one still better than shiTTTcago?
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
Have you even taken the lsat yet/
insanely creepy nursing home roast beef
  11/29/16
Jesus not the official but I know the lsat
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
take the real lsat, find out what you get, then decide
insanely creepy nursing home roast beef
  11/29/16
Ok
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
depends on what law school you get into Btw, how sure are...
Frum Tan New Version Institution
  11/29/16
It would be a t13 if I go Not sure man. It's not hard wo...
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
lmao
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
Ljl at my shittttty life right?
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
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Talented slap-happy abode headpube
  11/30/16
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onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  07/23/17
debt should be $250-300k. also need to factor in interest ob...
frozen locale karate
  11/29/16
Dammit Donny I'm not paying full freight to go to LS
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
that's what you say now.
frozen locale karate
  11/29/16
also kinda strong assumption on in house 3 years in
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
True but assuming more biglaw makes the model seem more pro ...
Copper Faggotry
  11/29/16
moar biglaw = better life, lol
Indigo reading party
  11/29/16
yfwgi but have you considered going to b-school?
Godawful public bath athletic conference
  11/29/16
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
yfwgi but are you aware that law school may only get you abo...
Godawful public bath athletic conference
  11/29/16
lol at law school guaranteeing $200k+ in salary
pink buck-toothed church building
  11/29/16
HE JUST WONT LISTEN
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
honestly, I want him to go just so I can see how he reacts a...
pink buck-toothed church building
  11/29/16
and by "not cracked up to be", we mean an absolute...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
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pink buck-toothed church building
  11/29/16
Start the in-house salary at 250 Also assume four years of...
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
Dude wtf. No way 250k in-house is even remotely guaranteed
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
In this market of you pick the right practice area it's a sa...
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
You need 5-7 years of biglaw, plus good firm, and you will s...
Laughsome Elastic Band
  11/29/16
(shittigator)
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
Nah, they need like 8 to 10 years biglaw and most won't get ...
Laughsome Elastic Band
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boyish center codepig
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sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
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  11/29/16
We're going to make peterman great again!!!!
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
Suicide is painless brother
Chartreuse sweet tailpipe
  11/29/16
law isn't fun. just work your chill consulting job and find ...
frozen locale karate
  11/29/16
you need to build in probabilities for these things not e...
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
Assuming t14 90% of people who want biglaw get it
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
This is not true.
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
In today's market it definitely is fag
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
(GULC 2L still hoping for the best)
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
Last year 85% of CLS oci participants got an offer
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
Oh wow, #4 school, great metric for the t14. "55.1% ...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
44.1% (BL+FC, GULC 2015) https://www.lstreports.com/compa...
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  11/29/16
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boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
lol horrible if tru
Know-it-all Police Squad National
  02/14/17
Right. Your "90% of t14" is way too high. Gulc is ...
smoky degenerate
  11/29/16
Gulc is a special case though. Cornell has similar offer rat...
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
80% of T6 is more like it. The people who "didn't want ...
Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage
  11/29/16
eh, it's a pretty high probability. not saying you will get ...
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
Bottom 30% was still precarious at my school, but you're rig...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
fair. tbf should probably knock out GULC too
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
leave dork enlightenment alone, asshole
frozen locale karate
  11/29/16
these numbers are more appropriate for v100 than 250
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
Only T5 gets anywhere close to that. CLS: 79.2% CHI: 82....
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
what is BL/FC? also you have to count clerks, they are m...
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
Big Law/Federal Clerk
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
Those reports are post grad. I'm talking about oci participa...
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
"Many people" do not do anything except for clerki...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
Go fuck urself u TTT faggot
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
Pumos are really channelling their inner 7th grader today.
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
(Bottom 1/3rd nyu 3L)
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
lol at that comically low debt figure. You know you pay inte...
smoky degenerate
  11/29/16
cr ljl @ him also assuming positive earnings in 2l and 3l
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
What kind of consultant makes 112k at Sr. Mgr? Those titles...
Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS
  11/29/16
Yeah I'll just get MBB bro! Brb while I JUST DO get MBB ...
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
If you go MBA with previous consulting background, MBB is no...
Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS
  11/29/16
what's their base salaries
Talented slap-happy abode headpube
  11/29/16
Everyone is matching McK at 152 base for post-MBA hires. ...
Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS
  11/29/16
I'm starting to think he's just elaborate, long game B schoo...
Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage
  11/29/16
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Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
Hmm seems like it's better to be a sales Chad pulling down 4...
Talented slap-happy abode headpube
  11/29/16
JUST DO!
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
Working for big 4 consulting is kind of pathetic though
carmine national security agency
  11/29/16
The exit opps are not quite as lucrative as biglaw, but have...
Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS
  11/29/16
I work in gov consulting, too.
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
how so?
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
you have to factor in a recession/depression. You think you ...
excitant goal in life property
  11/29/16
This is meaningless without probability weightings. Your ch...
Soul-stirring kink-friendly address
  11/29/16
Cr
Laughsome Elastic Band
  11/29/16
his chance of biglaw right now is like 5% if he takes th...
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
DO NOT GO. STAY AS A CONSULTANT
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boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
peterman crying losing hoap itt
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
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If you have autism-linked OCD to the point of needing medica...
Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage
  11/29/16
wouldn't getting an MBA be better? Did you score 170+ on th...
mischievous vigorous theater stage french chef
  11/29/16
He hasn't taken it yet lol
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
also how to cop consulting gig? t20 ls bottom of class here...
mischievous vigorous theater stage french chef
  11/29/16
It's crazy that 90% of people in this thread are telling him...
pink buck-toothed church building
  11/29/16
I made the decision to go to LS because I had nothing else, ...
low-t theatre chad
  11/29/16
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onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
TTT. No accounting for chances of failure and success. ...
Cobalt Razzle Main People Hall
  11/29/16
JESUS this thread ballooned while I was going through the TH...
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
little did you know that your hold was being BLOWN OUT as yo...
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
I think he just skulks around with a permanently prolapsed a...
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
Lol
Talented slap-happy abode headpube
  11/29/16
LOL NO: ITT: -A guy that thinks all MBA grads make 152...
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
you: - assuming that getting into a competitive mba prog...
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/29/16
ADDENDUM (and i reiterate that you are flame and have always...
onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
  11/30/16
180
Violet Persian Native
  02/01/17
PWN PWN PWN
Magenta friendly grandma
  11/30/16
stfu peterman
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dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
Listen to me closely. You will not get biglaw. Counting on t...
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sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
Eat shit faggot!
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
"feel free to critique or lay comment"
stirring garnet garrison pocket flask
  11/29/16
http://imgur.com/a/2freR
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
That's the guy who whipped your ass in contracts because he ...
stirring garnet garrison pocket flask
  11/29/16
Scathing
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
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onyx alcoholic field factory reset button
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in peterman's defense he claims to have a 3.9 from ivy or wa...
sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman
  11/29/16
To be fair, He got a 3.9 in Poli Sci or some other bullsh...
Laughsome Elastic Band
  11/29/16
Just like 95% of HLS?
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
I'm saying that a 3.9 in sleeping and drinking all day studi...
Laughsome Elastic Band
  11/29/16
Judging by his general lack of friends around the country, I...
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
If he really has a 3.9, then he has a better chance of atten...
stirring garnet garrison pocket flask
  11/29/16
Holy Cross is a FINE school brother--a CATHOLIC IVY
Talented slap-happy abode headpube
  11/30/16
LOL holy cross - top destination for working class brookl...
Deep nibblets whorehouse
  11/30/16
"... 6 months post-graduation you might secure an entry...
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
Bro u rlly took offense to my bottom 1/3rd at NYU comment. Y...
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU FAGGOT.
boyish center codepig
  11/29/16
I'm happy to admit that I'm below median at CCN, where I hav...
dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
  11/29/16
BIGLAW SECURITY!
Violet Persian Native
  11/29/16
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boyish center codepig
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dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship
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180
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this was 180 actually
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Violet Persian Native
  02/14/17
cot DAMN peterman's asshold got BLOWN OUT itt
Tantric shrine
  11/30/16
wow so Peterman went pumo because of this thread?
pink buck-toothed church building
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he's a manic little twink. whenever he gets smacked down har...
Deep nibblets whorehouse
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Violet Persian Native
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Jfc do you have OCD
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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:06 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015596)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:06 PM
Author: wine station

go to law school

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015601)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018139)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:41 PM
Author: Underhanded clown tanning salon

you won't last that long in consulting.

this is also stupid bc it doesn't factor in living expenses or savings every year. you suck at analyzing shit.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018114)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018137)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:45 PM
Author: Underhanded clown tanning salon

learn how to do proper analysis and maybe I'll hire you.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018157)



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Date: February 14th, 2017 10:02 PM
Author: Cobalt Razzle Main People Hall



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:08 PM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building

either way, stfu about it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015612)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015640)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:46 PM
Author: Underhanded clown tanning salon

while we're at it can you bash your head against the sidewalk enough times so you aren't capable of poasting anymore?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018164)



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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:03 AM
Author: Naked dilemma background story



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:09 PM
Author: Godawful public bath athletic conference

yfwgi but it's unlikely you'll end up in biglaw given your age

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015619)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:11 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015635)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:14 PM
Author: Electric library preventive strike

It kind of is, though the benefit is marginal past 2 yrs. on the other hand, you're at a huge disadvantage trying to pull allnighters fixing commas in your 30s and being a fuckboy to seniors your age.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015667)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:41 PM
Author: thirsty gas station



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:22 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

What year did you graduate UG? If you will be ~28 at OCI you'll be fine IME, idk what these posters are talking about.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015717)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:38 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Would be 34

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015835)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Yeah plenty of people at my non-HYS t14 were around that age. Average entering age is like 26 or something, I was on the young end obviously as KJD. "Top" OCI outcomes of my friend group were a current 30yr old going SullCrom, 29 yr old going to WC and a 30 yr old ex military bro going to Gibson Dunn LA.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015878)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:43 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015885)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:45 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

They're right about the senior associates though, but ymmv ofcourse

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015890)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:51 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

How was northwestern

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015929)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

CCN, hoe. I'll start saying t6 like a true faggot.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015971)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:00 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

How was NYU?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015996)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:02 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Is that one still better than shiTTTcago?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016022)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: insanely creepy nursing home roast beef

Have you even taken the lsat yet/

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015644)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:12 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Jesus not the official but I know the lsat

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015651)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:13 PM
Author: insanely creepy nursing home roast beef

take the real lsat, find out what you get, then decide

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015656)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:19 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Ok

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015700)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:21 PM
Author: Frum Tan New Version Institution

depends on what law school you get into

Btw, how sure are you of your progression in consulTTTing

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015711)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:27 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

It would be a t13 if I go

Not sure man. It's not hard work, just tedious and a bit mind numbing



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015756)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:27 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

lmao

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015763)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:40 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Ljl at my shittttty life right?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015851)



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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:06 AM
Author: Talented slap-happy abode headpube



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Date: July 23rd, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:28 PM
Author: frozen locale karate

debt should be $250-300k. also need to factor in interest obviously

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015769)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:36 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Dammit Donny

I'm not paying full freight to go to LS

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015817)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:47 PM
Author: frozen locale karate

that's what you say now.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015903)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:37 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

also kinda strong assumption on in house 3 years in

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015826)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:47 PM
Author: Copper Faggotry

True but assuming more biglaw makes the model seem more pro law school.

Also sum borrowed =/= sum repaid. If you borrow 115k you're paying back far more than 115

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015902)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:55 PM
Author: Indigo reading party

moar biglaw = better life, lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019931)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:40 PM
Author: Godawful public bath athletic conference

yfwgi but have you considered going to b-school?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015849)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:41 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015863)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:46 PM
Author: Godawful public bath athletic conference

yfwgi but are you aware that law school may only get you above the $200k bump for two or three years and then seriously impair your ability to ever get back there again?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015896)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:49 PM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building

lol at law school guaranteeing $200k+ in salary

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015915)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:50 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

HE JUST WONT LISTEN

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015918)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building

honestly, I want him to go just so I can see how he reacts after he figures out law school isn't all its cracked up to be

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015938)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

and by "not cracked up to be", we mean an absolute fucking scam where everyone hopes that they can transition "to the business side". Whatever though, we tried.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015957)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:55 PM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015965)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:51 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Start the in-house salary at 250

Also assume four years of biglaw



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015932)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Dude wtf. No way 250k in-house is even remotely guaranteed

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015942)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

In this market of you pick the right practice area it's a safe assumption

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015953)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

You need 5-7 years of biglaw, plus good firm, and you will still be looking for a year or so at lower payingin house



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016029)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

(shittigator)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016033)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

Nah, they need like 8 to 10 years biglaw and most won't get inhouse

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016503)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:15 PM
Author: boyish center codepig



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016515)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:35 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016636)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:41 PM
Author: stirring garnet garrison pocket flask



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019800)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:53 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

We're going to make peterman great again!!!!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015949)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM
Author: Chartreuse sweet tailpipe

Suicide is painless brother

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015933)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:52 PM
Author: frozen locale karate

law isn't fun. just work your chill consulting job and find some good hobbies. living for work is TTT

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015941)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:53 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

you need to build in probabilities for these things

not everyone gets biglaw

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015951)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:54 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Assuming t14 90% of people who want biglaw get it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015955)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:55 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

This is not true.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015966)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:56 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

In today's market it definitely is fag

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015972)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 1:59 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

(GULC 2L still hoping for the best)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32015988)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:02 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Last year 85% of CLS oci participants got an offer

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016016)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Oh wow, #4 school, great metric for the t14.

"55.1% of all graduates secured job offers by graduation."

GULC 2014

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016031)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:37 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

44.1% (BL+FC, GULC 2015)

https://www.lstreports.com/compare/gulc/berkeley/michigan/



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016250)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: boyish center codepig



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016507)



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Date: February 14th, 2017 9:53 PM
Author: Know-it-all Police Squad National

lol horrible if tru

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32624256)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:04 PM
Author: smoky degenerate

Right. Your "90% of t14" is way too high. Gulc is the biggest school in the T14 and it probably doesn't get 50% in biglaw.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016036)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:05 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Gulc is a special case though. Cornell has similar offer rates.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016052)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:23 PM
Author: Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage

80% of T6 is more like it. The people who "didn't want it" and "always planned to do public interest" are lying. HTH.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016562)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

eh, it's a pretty high probability. not saying you will get a job you enjoy or a practice group you want, but pretty much anyone in t14 who doestn have debilitating aspergers can get some kind of amlaw250 firm - look at TMF

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016005)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:05 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Bottom 30% was still precarious at my school, but you're right. I think 90% is a little overblown though, a few people "realized they didn't want biglaw" around Sept 20th

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016051)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:08 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

fair. tbf should probably knock out GULC too

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016081)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:06 PM
Author: frozen locale karate

leave dork enlightenment alone, asshole

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016058)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:07 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

these numbers are more appropriate for v100 than 250

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016070)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:42 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

Only T5 gets anywhere close to that.

CLS: 79.2%

CHI: 82.7%

NYU: 68.1%

https://www.lstreports.com/compare/columbia/chicago/nyu/

Note, 155 NYU 2015 grads didn't get BL or FC. There aren't THAT many PI bleeding hearts at NYU. 155.

86 CLS 2015 grads walking away without BL or FC is also sickening. 86.

34 CHI 2015 grads getting blown out is OK.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016281)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:46 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

what is BL/FC?

also you have to count clerks, they are most liekly qualified for biglaw

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016306)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:47 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

Big Law/Federal Clerk

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016316)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:52 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Those reports are post grad. I'm talking about oci participants. Many people get offers but do something besides clerking or biglaw

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016350)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

"Many people" do not do anything except for clerking or biglaw. What kind of anecdotal bullshit are you pulling this from? 98% of 2L SAs w/ BL+FC offers accept them.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016581)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Go fuck urself u TTT faggot

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016588)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:29 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Pumos are really channelling their inner 7th grader today.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016603)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:25 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

(Bottom 1/3rd nyu 3L)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016583)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:01 PM
Author: smoky degenerate

lol at that comically low debt figure. You know you pay interest on those loans. Don't go to law school. I told you about my experiences from a T6. The median salaries 5+ years out for recent grads are mediocre. Many have left the practice entirely. You also don't have a good handle on the odds of those paths you mapped out.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016009)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:03 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

cr

ljl @ him also assuming positive earnings in 2l and 3l

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016030)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS

What kind of consultant makes 112k at Sr. Mgr? Those titles sound like DeloiTTTe but the salaries are off.

Get into MBB and you'll be clearing 200k+ as a 2-3rd year and your exit ops are more like 250k+

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016230)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:37 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Yeah I'll just get MBB bro! Brb while I JUST DO get MBB

I work in a PR firm

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016251)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:44 PM
Author: Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS

If you go MBA with previous consulting background, MBB is not hard to cop. Aside from that, even big4 consulting matches MBB on base salary. The only diff between MBB and big4 is that bonus pay takes off, and MBB has better exit opps.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016296)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:56 PM
Author: Talented slap-happy abode headpube

what's their base salaries

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016376)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:13 PM
Author: Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS

Everyone is matching McK at 152 base for post-MBA hires.

Even Deloittte makes mid 200's once you hit manager levels

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016496)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:26 PM
Author: Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage

I'm starting to think he's just elaborate, long game B school and bulge bracket/consulting flame. The salary numbers in his OP are dumb as hell. Corpdevbots in F100 make like 2x that scale in are country.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016586)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:40 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016663)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: Talented slap-happy abode headpube

Hmm seems like it's better to be a sales Chad pulling down 400k

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018099)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:50 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

JUST DO!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018203)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:34 PM
Author: carmine national security agency

Working for big 4 consulting is kind of pathetic though

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016629)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:37 PM
Author: Bill Paxton and Paul Reiser in ALIENS

The exit opps are not quite as lucrative as biglaw, but have much higher probability of success.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016646)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:40 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

I work in gov consulting, too.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016669)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

how so?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018126)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:47 PM
Author: excitant goal in life property

you have to factor in a recession/depression. You think you can land those jobs easily in a downturn economy?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016317)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 2:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring kink-friendly address

This is meaningless without probability weightings. Your chances of $180k in house after 3 years is about 10%. Your chance of biglaw is higher, maybe 75%

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016331)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:14 PM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

Cr

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016506)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:28 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

his chance of biglaw right now is like 5%

if he takes the LSAT and gets a 170+, it probably jumps to 50%+

of course, he ist just gonna keep posting this for the next 3 years instead of taking the freaki nLSAT

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016594)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:24 PM
Author: Magenta friendly grandma

DO NOT GO. STAY AS A CONSULTANT

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016571)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:34 PM
Author: mischievous vigorous theater stage french chef



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016633)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:35 PM
Author: boyish center codepig



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016638)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:27 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

peterman crying losing hoap itt

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016591)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:28 PM
Author: Exhilarant Pit Blood Rage

If you have autism-linked OCD to the point of needing medical interventions (and based on your poasting history there's like a 35% chance that you do), then go to law school and gun your dick off. If not, you'd be a moron to not go to b school.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016593)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:38 PM
Author: mischievous vigorous theater stage french chef

wouldn't getting an MBA be better? Did you score 170+ on the LSAT and have a 3.7+ GPA?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016650)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:47 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

He hasn't taken it yet lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016721)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:39 PM
Author: mischievous vigorous theater stage french chef

also how to cop consulting gig? t20 ls bottom of class here.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016656)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:39 PM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building

It's crazy that 90% of people in this thread are telling him not to go and he'll still convince himself that it's a good idea.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016659)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:42 PM
Author: low-t theatre chad

I made the decision to go to LS because I had nothing else, u wanting to go is just because you have a faggot mentality

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016684)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 3:45 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32016704)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 5:44 PM
Author: Cobalt Razzle Main People Hall

TTT.

No accounting for chances of failure and success.

No accounting for consequences of failure. Failed consulting to law (or something else) is possible. If you fail at law, you're dog food -- the cheap Walmart brand.

No accounting for income/hour.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32017708)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:37 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

JESUS this thread ballooned while I was going through the THIRD ITERATION of a powerpoint deck for SHREW BOSS

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018075)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:39 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

little did you know that your hold was being BLOWN OUT as you were

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018090)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:40 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

I think he just skulks around with a permanently prolapsed ass.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018104)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: Talented slap-happy abode headpube

Lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018127)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:49 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

LOL NO:

ITT:

-A guy that thinks all MBA grads make 152k; thinks that copping MBB post-MBA isnt hard; that MBB jobs are more desirable than biglaw

-Poasters throwing around GULC despite my EXPLICIT declaration that I would not attend GULC

-Poasters assuming I would take out 250-300k in loans despite my EXPLICIT declaration that I would not attend LS at full sticker

-No one recognizing that GOVERNMENT CONSULTING HAS LITTLE TO NO EXIT OPPS/and is probably the most tttt of any "white collar" industry

-No one recognizing that LS would allow me to GTFO of DC

-No one recognizing that Law can ACTUALLY be interesting/useful in some life/career situations

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32018197)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:10 PM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

you:

- assuming that getting into a competitive mba program is a probable outcome for you

- assuming that getting a job at mbb, some of the more prestigious businesses in the world, will be "easy" for you because some dude on the internet said these are not hard jobs to get

- assuming that, if you went through with the LS application process and received some acceptances but no good scholarships, you would have the wherewithal and clarity of mind to walk away from your acceptances rather than burden yourself with 250-300k in loans because your unbearable and insufferable angst will not let you walk away from your special little law school acceptance letter

- assuming that you will outgun all of the other gunner snowflakes at your law school and get biglaw

- assuming that it will go well

- assuming that you will get a well-paid in-house gig just like that out of biglaw and live happily ever after

you've simply cherrypicked a few nice-sounding nuggets from a thread which is overwhelmingly critical and belittling of your thinking.

underlying all of this is your denial that your life will proceed unto some unprestigious end, which conflicts with the mentality with which you were brought up, which tells you that you are special and must do something prestigious

even if you went to law, you would be disillusioned with it quickly, realize the financial outcome is not much better than what you would have had if you continued with what you have now, and realize that nobody thinks much the better of you for being a middling lawyer

you simply have to come to terms with the fact that society does not give a shit about 99.9999% of people, and that you will die and rot as an unremarkable bundle of cells which will be forgotten five years after you die - the same realization that the other 99.9999% of people on this earth must come to

but you can't let yourself do that yet because you think you're special, so you'll continue to draft contrived arguments and excel spreadsheets to justify going to law school, none of which are grounded in reality but which are simply the fruits of your continued grasping at straws, hoping to once and for all find something that tells you that yes, you can be something too - which you can't, and which 99.9999% of people can't.

the sooner you learn that, and the sooner you stop rationalizing your romantic hopes, the better.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32020057)



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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:30 AM
Author: onyx alcoholic field factory reset button

ADDENDUM (and i reiterate that you are flame and have always been, but i will humor you):

your problem is also that you can't stop seeking validation because you have absolutely no sense of what you want in life and therefore spend your days begging others to tell you what is "the right thing to do"

the right thing to do is whatever you value in life

if you are honestly so vain that what you value in life is the superficial (and minuscule, probably nonexistent) prestige that comes along with being able to tell someone that you're a lawyer, then fucking do it (though i pity you if this is the case)

if you value something else, do something else

but at this point you're probably more knowledgeable about the factual pros and cons of going to law school than perhaps anyone in the history of the board

*your* problem is that you don't know how to give yourself a set of values and goals and how to be content and confident in them as your own.

one day you talk about going to law school. the next, continuing with your work. the next, moving to portland to become a bartender.

it is clear that you have absolutely zero vision of what you want your life to be, and lack the ability to think seriously about what *you* value and what *you* espouse in this life.

no more information is going to help you in deciding whether you should go to law school. you know the facts (though you appear to be in denial of some of them in hopes of justifying going to law school).

but you are clearly a hollow human being who has no sense of himself whatsoever and who is therefore forced to turn to sources of external validation for a sense of meaning in life.

and this is why you are so drawn to law - your life is meaningless now because you don't know how to give yourself meaning, and you think that pursuing some nice, socially-espoused white-collar profession might give you meaning again.

but you fail to see that the problem is not your profession now - it is *you* - because regardless of whether you are a lawyer or a mailman, you lack the ability to sense meaning in your life, and this will not change if you become a lawyer. you will still feel empty, just with fewer hours to yourself and more debt to pay.

either find meaning in something or admit that life is meaningless and stop grasping outside of yourself.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32021697)



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Date: February 1st, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

180

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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:12 AM
Author: Magenta friendly grandma

PWN PWN PWN

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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:43 PM
Author: at-the-ready spot ratface

stfu peterman

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Date: November 29th, 2016 6:45 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:39 PM
Author: stirring garnet garrison pocket flask

Listen to me closely. You will not get biglaw. Counting on that is ridiculous. Counting on that kind of in-house salary after three years of biglaw is ridiculous. Even if meant for flame and attention, if one part of your lizard brain hopes they are plausible, then your delusions are eventually going to overwhelm your rational judgment. You need to refasten yourself to reality before you slide over the edge. Persistent flame is often the result of latent desire.

You will likely end up at GW, eagerly pursuing GULC's night program transfer stats at every opportunity, your eye on the prize, such as it is. Then you will barely finish top 1/3 even though your classmates are mostly retards. That is because you are also not that smart and you likely don't have the drive to out-compete the true grinders. You have no idea what you're dealing with.

You will do nothing 1L summer. 2L summer you might get to clerk for free for a county trial court judge or break your ass at some pseudo-shitlaw insurance defense factory that doesn't have an actual hiring program. Or god help you, some bumfuck prosecutor's office where you will gain valuable experience aping the other knuckle-dragging $50K/yr junior prosecutors as you push paper on traffic infractions.

Maybe you bust your ass and game your course load after 1L. You become a citation slave on some awful secondary journal. You pad your resume with every dumbfuck clinic and useless student group your LS has to offer. 6 months post-graduation you might secure an entry-level gig at the Maryland AG's office dealing with assembly line health and social services cases. You will make $56K and live in some dystopian massive apartment complex in Silver Spring or wherever your god awful satellite office is located. You will be grateful and relieved for this job because it has healthcare and at least you're not prosecuting DUIs, churning out blue collar divorces, or most likely of all, fully unemployed. You will have minimum $150Kish in debt for your grand efforts and three wasted years. You will never make a great deal of money or achieve much as a lawyer. You will be on the wrong side of 40.

Go learn a trade if you want quality of life and decent money. 1/20 or worse that you even sniff biglaw or something nearly as lucrative at any time during your 'career.' You must get over yourself. You have nothing special to offer this industry, you probably don't have the stones for real trial work (most don't no matter what you think of yourself), and nobody gives a fuck about a late 30s consultant who only wants to be in the profession because he thinks it's going to pay him handsomely despite his total dearth of value.

Law schools are filled with people like you. Law schools are filled with miserable and unfulfilled people who all think they're precious and the world owes them something. Stop listening to the siren song of your own ego and think about what you actually want to do with the short amount of time you have left on this planet, you foolish, self-important little man.

Sincerely brother, I hope that helps. Don't do it. All you'll ever hear form me on the subject.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019786)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:41 PM
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:50 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Eat shit faggot!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019872)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:51 PM
Author: stirring garnet garrison pocket flask

"feel free to critique or lay comment"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019893)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:53 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

http://imgur.com/a/2freR

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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:54 PM
Author: stirring garnet garrison pocket flask

That's the guy who whipped your ass in contracts because he knows nobody particularly wants or needs to hire him. And he'll never, ever get anyone to service his chocobar if he can't throw modestly UMC cash around. While you were jerking off to Instragram accounts you ferreted out with Tinder matches and demanding that XO rate your hairline at 3:30 in the morning, he was memorizing and re-organizing his securities reg outline for the fourth time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019915)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Scathing

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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:55 PM
Author: sooty startled legal warrant skinny woman

in peterman's defense he claims to have a 3.9 from ivy or wahtefver so he's a grinder. as long as he cops a 170+ (which is the real sticking point, he's too pussy to take the lsat) his biglaw chances are fairly good

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019925)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:57 PM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

To be fair,

He got a 3.9 in Poli Sci or some other bullshit degree.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019948)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Just like 95% of HLS?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019985)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

I'm saying that a 3.9 in sleeping and drinking all day studies doesn't really show whether he's a grinder or not

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019989)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:03 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

Judging by his general lack of friends around the country, I'm gonna go ahead and assume he wasn't a fratstar getting drunk 5 times a week haha

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32020005)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:59 PM
Author: stirring garnet garrison pocket flask

If he really has a 3.9, then he has a better chance of attending a decent school.

But I don't think a high GPA in genderqueer studies from Dartmouth or wherever is a strong predictor of success in law school. Grade inflation and relaxed standards is par for most non-STEM majors at Ivies. The sort of precocious academic skills that might get a 17 year old admitted to Brown don't really translate when he's dealing law school grinders and the handful of truly bright people in every class.

Also, frankly, don't entirely believe much of what peterman says about himself. 3.9 at X Ivy could very easily be 3.64 at Holy Cross, which means four months from now he'll start demanding that XO tell him $18K/yr at Tulane is a great investment.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019965)



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Date: November 30th, 2016 2:25 AM
Author: Talented slap-happy abode headpube

Holy Cross is a FINE school brother--a CATHOLIC IVY

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Date: November 30th, 2016 10:35 PM
Author: Deep nibblets whorehouse

LOL

holy cross - top destination for working class brookline turds and catholic school dweebs from the midwest. HEY GUYS MY KID GOT INTO HOLY CRAASS NOT BAAHD HE WAS A STRAIGHT AAAR STUDENT

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32028329)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:00 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

"... 6 months post-graduation you might secure an entry-level gig at the Maryland AG's office dealing with assembly line health and social services cases. You will make $56K and live in some dystopian massive apartment complex in Silver Spring or wherever your god awful satellite office is located."

Too close to home? JFC u r so DONE HERE.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019979)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:01 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

Bro u rlly took offense to my bottom 1/3rd at NYU comment. You should keep your cards closer to ur chest!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32019990)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:04 PM
Author: boyish center codepig

WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU FAGGOT.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32020011)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:13 PM
Author: dull rambunctious international law enforcement agency cruise ship

I'm happy to admit that I'm below median at CCN, where I have a $90,000 scholly and where I'm biglaw secure.

You need to stop running this flame into the ashes.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32020092)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 10:14 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native

BIGLAW SECURITY!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32020106)



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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:55 PM
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Date: November 29th, 2016 9:58 PM
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Date: April 2nd, 2017 12:55 PM
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This is a masterpiece

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Date: July 23rd, 2017 9:43 AM
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180

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this was 180 actually

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Date: February 14th, 2017 9:48 PM
Author: Violet Persian Native



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Date: November 30th, 2016 3:45 AM
Author: Tantric shrine

cot DAMN peterman's asshold got BLOWN OUT itt

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Date: November 30th, 2016 9:10 AM
Author: pink buck-toothed church building

wow so Peterman went pumo because of this thread?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32022294)



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Date: November 30th, 2016 10:37 PM
Author: Deep nibblets whorehouse

he's a manic little twink. whenever he gets smacked down hard he'll pumo up for a few hours while he licks his wounds before realizing he's far too addicted to the bantam weight anonymous internet attention he gets here.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#32028351)



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Date: April 2nd, 2017 12:10 AM
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Date: February 14th, 2017 9:47 PM
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Date: April 17th, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: Laughsome Elastic Band

Jfc do you have OCD

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3443988&forum_id=2#33091484)



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