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Alasdair MacIntyre: “the new dark ages which are already upon us”

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me. “...
orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness
  02/16/21
link plz
vivacious brunch
  03/29/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue
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  03/29/21
"construction of local forms of community within which ...
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*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*
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  02/16/21
this is a second Renaissance
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just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory towe...
Lilac Know-it-all Useless Brakes
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Harsh but fair
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After Virtue is 180
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  02/16/21
he is 180
Vigorous alpha
  02/16/21
That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs ...
orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness
  02/16/21
link? what books of his have you read?
Vigorous alpha
  02/16/21
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue https://you...
orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness
  02/16/21
The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans
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Hard to make a distinction by the end.
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  02/16/21
only of you're a drunk Roman
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Lol @ premils
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quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient h...
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even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empi...
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i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude ...
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dominicans are unironically natsoc
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every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities ...
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Date: February 16th, 2021 11:21 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

This paragraph in particular really stuck with me.

“A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead often not recognizing fully what they were doing—was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition is correct, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us.”

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41954317)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: vivacious brunch

link plz

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183785)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:31 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183802)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 11:14 PM
Author: Passionate out-of-control church building sex offender

"construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained"

move to the sticks and make good with everyone you can.

sounds good to me.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258556)



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Date: March 14th, 2024 2:35 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#47493724)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:14 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957356)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: chest-beating hilarious senate



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957366)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:16 PM
Author: Jet Filthy Pistol Menage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957369)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:18 PM
Author: Brussels Sprout (Apropos of the Wet Snow)

*hair shirted Thomists gather itt*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957375)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:26 PM
Author: Jet-lagged buff church

this is a second Renaissance

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957423)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:28 PM
Author: Lilac Know-it-all Useless Brakes

just another retard who spent his life inside the ivory tower reading classical bullshit and seeing vandals and visigoths everywhere when he ventures outside the campus. charles taylor is tcr communitarian

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957439)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:30 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

Harsh but fair

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957810)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:18 AM
Author: Sooty location laser beams



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 12:28 PM
Author: useless factory reset button sandwich



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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:52 PM
Author: Sooty location laser beams



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Date: February 16th, 2021 7:40 PM
Author: ultramarine exhilarant community account windowlicker

After Virtue is 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957508)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:31 PM
Author: Vigorous alpha

he is 180

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957816)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:34 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

That poaster that linked the society decline post 71 graphs really drove home the point.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957825)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:50 PM
Author: Vigorous alpha

link?

what books of his have you read?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957902)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Virtue

https://youtu.be/7_ssRpso9e8?t=2626

This little snippet really drives it home though and makes the leap from seemingly magical tech to us being in a full fledge culture extinction.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958239)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:44 PM
Author: Purple tanning salon

The visigoths were smarter & more moral than the romans

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957873)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 8:46 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

Hard to make a distinction by the end.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41957881)



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Date: February 16th, 2021 9:37 PM
Author: lake charismatic shitlib philosopher-king

only of you're a drunk Roman

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41958115)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:38 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963755)



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Date: February 17th, 2021 7:39 PM
Author: drab shrine internal respiration

Lol @ premils

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41963758)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 11:50 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979325)



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Date: February 20th, 2021 12:03 PM
Author: Vigorous alpha



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#41979396)



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Date: March 2nd, 2021 12:19 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42034897)



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Date: March 18th, 2021 12:02 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42123274)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:26 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183777)



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Date: March 29th, 2021 12:27 PM
Author: Supple french dopamine

quit trying to relate the present day situation to ancient history...it's not the same

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42183780)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:48 PM
Author: vivacious brunch

It is always dangerous to draw too precise parallels between one historical period and another; and among the most misleading of such parallels are those which have been drawn between our own age in Europe and North America and the epoch in which the Roman empire declined into the Dark Ages. Nonetheless certain parallels there are. A crucial turning point in that earlier history occurred when men and women of good will turned aside from the task of shoring up the Roman imperium and ceased to identify the continuation of civility and moral community with the maintenance of that imperium. What they set themselves to achieve instead–often not recognizing fully what they were doing–was the construction of new forms of community within which the moral life could be sustained so that both morality and civility might survive the coming ages of barbarism and darkness. If my account of our moral condition, we ought also to conclude that for some time now we too have reached that turning point. What matters at this stage is the construction of local forms of community within which civility and the intellectual and moral life can be sustained through the new dark ages which are already upon us. And if the tradition of the virtues was able to survive the horrors of the last dark ages, we are not entirely without grounds for hope. This time, however, the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43308041)



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Date: April 14th, 2021 10:16 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42282143)



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Date: April 23rd, 2021 11:15 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42335581)



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Date: April 30th, 2021 7:19 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#42379335)



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Date: October 1st, 2021 12:10 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43206172)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:42 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235648)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:48 AM
Author: Amber hot blood rage

even the most optimistic accounts of american culture / empire now have to admit that there is, by any description, no shared purpose. all the "good" things that can happen these days are things that would benefit you or your family. Get comparatively rich, get a better job, etc. No one even considers benefits to the community or "America". And sure as shit no one will accept personal detriment for America's improvement.

This has to be a clear sign that it's over. Im reminded of those videos of Army doods all saying "lol fuck the Army, my recruiter lied, this sucks", rating it as they would a job or college. Imagine asking enlisted men to consider their lives as contributing to America's glory

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235671)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 9:53 AM
Author: thriller haunting keepsake machete



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235690)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:19 AM
Author: Amber hot blood rage

i was in customs once in santo domingo, and some black dude got pulled out of line. "are you dominican?" they asked him

The dude got all worked up, "me?! Dominican as fuck! Pure blood. Dominican to my core!" etc

Tried to imagine someone being so insulted and prideful about being american, lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235780)



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:12 PM
Author: vivacious brunch

dominicans are unironically natsoc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#48015989)



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Date: October 7th, 2021 10:29 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSdnESSU-WRTBliI5nWkh_dlW_H3tOaxC

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43235846)



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Date: October 11th, 2021 9:55 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43258178)



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Date: October 21st, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#43308017)



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Date: March 3rd, 2022 7:03 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#44078593)



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:32 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: March 4th, 2022 10:38 PM
Author: provocative coldplay fan



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Date: April 21st, 2022 4:47 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: April 25th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: June 3rd, 2023 6:48 PM
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Date: June 5th, 2023 10:03 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: June 5th, 2023 11:30 PM
Author: glassy sexy digit ratio

every age deals with this and it's the MONASTIC communities who carry the flame when the wheels come off.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4767241&forum_id=2#46393785)



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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:33 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: February 27th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: Carnelian adulterous tank



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Date: August 27th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: July 9th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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Date: October 21st, 2026 1:49 PM
Author: orchid odious market twinkling uncleanness



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