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Leopold Aschenbrenner essay on the AI arms race that will change world by 2027
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Date: June 12th, 2024 3:47 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is very smart.
tl;dr version: superintelligence is within reach and the capex to get there is being spent, the teams are being assembled, the power plants built, etc.; eventually US government will step in to oversee the project as a kind of Manhattan Project because a six-month head start is the equivalent of 20-30 years in arms development; things get really weird from a game theory perspective once superintelligence is achieved but before the robots take over. It's US v. China with the Middle East and Russia posing major risks because of their abundant natural energy resources.
Essay: https://situational-awareness.ai/ Four-hour podcast: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/leopold-aschenbrenner (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47740848) |
Date: June 12th, 2024 4:28 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47740975) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:50 PM Author: pea-brained fear-inspiring incel pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spend my precious remaining days poasting on a decrepit law school admissions forum (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741056) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 6:14 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse It’s part of the data set (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741277) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM Author: brindle histrionic becky (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741556) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:25 PM Author: Cream Gaped Point Pervert *superintelligent AI addressing the world* "I'm gay and retarded" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741568) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:26 PM Author: brindle histrionic becky 180000000000000000000000000000 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741570) |
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Date: June 14th, 2024 9:03 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47748063) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interesting and raised some concerns about this LLM maximalist point of view. LLMs still perform quite poorly on ARC. There are real concerns that transformer scaling will not address all the problems with out of distribution generalization and algorithmic reasoning. This buys a bit of time and probably pushes out timelines past 2027. Things will become progressively weirder though over the next decade and it’s hard to see how AGI is out more than 15 years. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741554) |
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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:29 PM Author: black vibrant patrolman corn cake nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to actual intelligence. what we have right now is essentially a sophisticated version of a database that can accept unstructured queries and that can interpolate between dataset entries. it would take a complete paradigm shift to get to something qualitatively more powerful than that. may or may not happen. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47741579) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:34 AM Author: Cyan whorehouse This is not right. The trend lines are clear. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743102) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: black vibrant patrolman corn cake no (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743420) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 1:23 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able to robustly deal with novel situations. I would trust GPT-4 more to solve a random math word problem or answer RC questions from an LSAT than most people. The interpolation/extrapolation distinction becomes less and less meaningful in high dimensional spaces when you are training on everything. I agree LLMs don’t go all the way but they very likely go a lot further than they do now and there are other things in the AI space used for game playing that look like they can be combined with LLMs to bootstrap capabilities. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743513) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:01 PM Author: black vibrant patrolman corn cake llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that we have a lot of data for. they can't generalize to unseen environments (new probability distributions) and they lack an inherent teleology to prompt them interact with those environments. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743680) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel situations too and they can’t even do the routine cognitive tasks that GPT-4 excels at. I don’t think a median human could be made competitive with it at reading comprehension tasks. With 100x the training compute, there is no chance. There is really no principled reason why LLMs paired with model based RL couldn’t be made data efficient and adaptable. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743890) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 4:14 PM Author: black vibrant patrolman corn cake this is silly (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47744229) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: tripping nursing home I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me. Whatever will I do once those are automated? Never mind that basically everything we do in Compliance is bespoke transaction monitoring and the vanilla bulk transaction stuff was automated 24-25 years ago and hasnt had humans involved in a generation anyway.
Like the biggest thing is Compliance now is marijuana and the hemp exemption BS that plagues us. The fuck is AI going to do about any of that? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743117) |
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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:43 AM Author: Cyan whorehouse The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics part. The time when AGI is pursued by private companies is coming to a close. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47743136) |
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Date: June 16th, 2024 7:28 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#47752081) |
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Date: October 27th, 2024 3:00 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much AI is starting to affect elite thinking
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Date: October 27th, 2024 5:15 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse There’s like a five percent chance of total destruction and a five percent chance of positive total transformation. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48247027) |
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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:20 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an outcome in between. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48247316) |
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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:22 PM Author: adventurous low-t psychic pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90% (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48247323) |
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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:24 PM Author: Buff Sweet Tailpipe Turdskin Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, or some sort of truly weird outcome like everyone being uploaded into a simulation of something retarded for eternity. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48247333) |
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Date: October 27th, 2024 8:36 PM Author: Swashbuckling Shimmering Menage Affirmative Action Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyper intelligent machines? You would have to believe intelligence tops at exactly the human level, when we have many reasons for believing that is not the case. Life can not go on in a normal way. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48247755) |
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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:37 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#48270046) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:16 AM Author: bonkers unhinged stead dysfunction Where r we on this (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50035998) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:23 AM Author: Sooty philosopher-king We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost all if not all humans in intelligence. And it's not even 2027 yet. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50036002) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:25 AM Author: bonkers unhinged stead dysfunction lol we’ve got a live one here folks (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50036007) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:26 AM Author: Sooty philosopher-king Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50036009) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:45 AM Author: bonkers unhinged stead dysfunction Yes (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50036028) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse At what? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50037372) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:57 AM Author: Big Mewling Chad Hominid He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?)
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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse That’s what Alpha zoomers look and sound like now (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50037373) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse lol at this super genius being a) right and b) blowing up his fund with leverage and c) having to sell all his positions to Citadel. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50037370) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:45 PM Author: Cyan whorehouse (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040160) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:13 AM Author: Scarlet property lol cr, but also, 1) he got married this week while it was blowing up, and 2) he's still up 80% or something this year (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040182) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:45 PM Author: confused passionate range codepig what a stupid fucking name, holy shit (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040161) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 11:58 PM Author: Big Mewling Chad Hominid He's German.
And you're not white. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040176) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:14 AM Author: Copper prole oh no my arms are made of ai and racing around (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040183) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:26 AM Author: Cerebral Claret Voyeur Ken Griffin now owns this guy. Does that mean Ken griffin is smarter, or just more valuable? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040199) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:33 AM Author: slippery racy masturbator base Ken did well here but it took him until 2026 to realize AI is not flame and the world won’t remain the same for much longer.
https://x.com/fundamentedge/status/2055675389767516544
He was calling it slop a couple years ago when it was clear further scaling would bring us to this point and beyond (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040202) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 12:35 AM Author: Cerebral Claret Voyeur Is he gonna use leopold’s mouth as a toilet? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2#50040204) |