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Terminator 2 Plot Hole: they literally had no fucking plan to kill the T1000

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing th...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/18/24
The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great mo...
Federal faggot firefighter
  06/18/24
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Copper meetinghouse
  06/18/24
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Fear-inspiring Affirmative Action
  06/18/24
its basically invincible to physical damage
blue university weed whacker
  06/18/24
It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of...
Nubile windowlicker
  06/18/24
he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after g...
Lake scourge upon the earth mediation
  06/18/24
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plum low-t round eye
  06/18/24
Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000u...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/19/24
Giant octopus would do it
galvanic parlor
  06/19/24
or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/19/24
Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there'...
galvanic parlor
  06/19/24
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Curious milky lodge
  06/19/24
That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you i...
magenta library
  06/18/24
save it for trivia, champ
Odious ebony theatre associate
  06/18/24
the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridic...
pink cuckold school cafeteria
  06/18/24
Youre gay, we get it.
Federal faggot firefighter
  06/18/24
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Avocado lettuce
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Curious milky lodge
  06/19/24
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Fear-inspiring Affirmative Action
  06/19/24
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Electric wild goyim
  06/19/24
lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at l...
citrine range
  06/18/24
that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some i...
pink cuckold school cafeteria
  06/18/24
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Mississippi Protein Ad
  06/18/24
Wtf is a summer glau
Bat-shit-crazy bisexual set coldplay fan
  06/19/24
(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterma...
spectacular boltzmann brunch
  06/19/24
I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(
Razzle corner new version
  06/20/24
Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in tha...
spectacular boltzmann brunch
  06/20/24
I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where t...
Razzle corner new version
  06/20/24
both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make ...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  09/01/26
Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking t...
Richard Ames
  09/01/26
love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies but this...
Adventurous infuriating box office
  06/18/24
Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where ev...
Mississippi Protein Ad
  06/18/24
yeah, no oh, a robot can put itself back together vs oh, a...
pink cuckold school cafeteria
  06/18/24
My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on ...
Mississippi Protein Ad
  06/19/24
Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work...
floppy shitlib
  06/18/24
Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicatin...
Adventurous infuriating box office
  06/18/24
lmao just rip off back to the future?
floppy shitlib
  06/18/24
*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the ga...
Vermilion slap-happy rigpig trailer park
  06/19/24
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ivory market
  06/19/24
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galvanic parlor
  06/20/24
im not a phenotype expert like many on the board... but F...
plum low-t round eye
  06/20/24
Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly rui...
hyperactive vigorous potus
  06/20/24
I’m gay
offensive den
  06/18/24
The story is that they were so far behind in resources at th...
Idiotic Indian Lodge Tank
  06/18/24
Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/19/24
When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matte...
180 azn home
  06/19/24
another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/19/24
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Violent thriller stead turdskin
  12/24/25
In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no o...
Nubile windowlicker
  06/19/24
The second movie actually takes place before the first
galvanic parlor
  06/20/24
movies that take place only slightly before/after the curren...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/20/24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact
galvanic parlor
  06/20/24
nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Roa...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/21/24
They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezi...
slate marvelous keepsake machete
  06/19/24
they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's m...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/20/24
the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and ...
plum low-t round eye
  06/20/24
Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood...
wonderful garnet trump supporter legend
  06/20/24
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Mississippi Protein Ad
  06/21/24
then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems li...
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  09/01/26


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Date: June 18th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

they just shot at it with guns they knew would do nothing then randomly decided to raid the cyberdyne lab then happened to drive to a fortuitous steel mill. they were really dumb as shit and got lucky and even then john and sarah ended up as fugitives.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757584)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: Federal faggot firefighter

The plan was to gtfo and hide forever. Not a hole. Great movie.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757934)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Copper meetinghouse



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757940)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:16 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Affirmative Action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757946)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:23 PM
Author: blue university weed whacker

its basically invincible to physical damage

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757973)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:46 PM
Author: Nubile windowlicker

It melts, so presumably they could have dropped some sort of very high temperature explosive on it. It ultimately melts in the molten metal

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758301)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: Lake scourge upon the earth mediation

he starts fucking up after taking damage, especially after getting frozen and shattered

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/terminator/images/c/c8/800px-T2T-1000glitch-1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090320213631

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/t1000_glitch.jpg

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759018)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: plum low-t round eye



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758073)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:17 AM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

Arnold could have had an excel file labeled waystokillT1000using20thcenturytech.xlsb loaded in his head. one of the rows would have been to break into a steel mill and dump him in a vat of molten metal. they probably could have just gone way out to sea and threw him in the ocean. he'd do something dumb like shapeshift into a shark but then he'd be stuck in the water.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759947)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: galvanic parlor

Giant octopus would do it

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760201)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:39 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

or trick him to fall into a vat of molten metal

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760946)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:10 PM
Author: galvanic parlor

Even if he reconstituted himself in that environment, there's no way he could avoid chemical impurities IMHO.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761930)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:05 AM
Author: Curious milky lodge



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760192)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:24 PM
Author: magenta library

That’s not a plot hole, it’s a plot device you idiot. A very common one too - underdogs up against a seemingly unstoppable enemy.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47757978)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Odious ebony theatre associate

save it for trivia, champ

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758072)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 5:46 PM
Author: pink cuckold school cafeteria

the t1000 pretty much ruined the franchise. oh look, a ridiculous 5,000 year jump in technology to the point of imaginary.

summer glau helped revive it, but only because of her acting and looks

t2 is just a lame fantasy kids movie. t1 was great.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758068)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: Federal faggot firefighter

Youre gay, we get it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758269)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:36 PM
Author: Avocado lettuce



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759203)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 10:06 AM
Author: Curious milky lodge



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760193)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Affirmative Action



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760988)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:11 PM
Author: Electric wild goyim



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761935)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 6:53 PM
Author: citrine range

lmao the entire premise is a bootstrap paradox; you can at least make the villain as cool as possible

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758330)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: pink cuckold school cafeteria

that doesn't contradict what i said. making a villain some imaginary freddy krueger robot is not 'cool', it's lame.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758954)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:33 PM
Author: Mississippi Protein Ad (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759013)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:12 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy bisexual set coldplay fan

Wtf is a summer glau

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761039)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: spectacular boltzmann brunch

(Not a Firefly, Arrow, *OR* Sarah Connor Chronicles masterman*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761132)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Razzle corner new version

I really wished Sarah Connor Chronicles got a season 3 :(

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763660)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:31 PM
Author: spectacular boltzmann brunch

Yeah, a solid 165 show and we were left hanging. Fox in that era sucked at this :(

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764275)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:37 PM
Author: Razzle corner new version

I think Fox cancelled that apprentice knock-off show where the rich boss was a fake before they did the big reveal and for that show they paid for the episodes they just never aired them. Same era I think.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764303)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

both involve time travel which doesn't fucking work or make any sense obviously. may as well make davey scitino be made of liquid metal

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#50109176)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Laughed so hard the first time I saw Davey Scitino talking to Big Ton'.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#50109200)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:23 PM
Author: Adventurous infuriating box office

love plot hole / fatal flaw threads about movies

but this one isnt that compelling

bit like the death star shot -- they needed every single circumstance to break their way to stand a chance against invincible villain

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47758969)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:35 PM
Author: Mississippi Protein Ad (No Future)

Honestly it's not that much more contrived than T1, where even after repeated obliteration from small arms and explosives the Terminator is still a threat until they find the fortuitous industrial press.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759020)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: pink cuckold school cafeteria

yeah, no

oh, a robot can put itself back together vs

oh, a liquid metal imaginary shapeshifter can see, can fix itself, can rejoin, can become anything can...etc

incredibly lame

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759158)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 9:26 AM
Author: Mississippi Protein Ad (No Future)

My point is more that their plan in T1 ultimately relied on them getting lucky on being near an industrial factory or whatever

Anyway, when you remember that The Terminator was initially conceived of (and plays out as) a slasher movie, then just think of T-800 as Michael or Jason, and T-1000 as Freddy

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47760088)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:36 PM
Author: floppy shitlib

Didn't they know that whatever they did was destined to work anyway because the future they came from proved that they didn't die? idk

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759029)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: Adventurous infuriating box office

Iirc there was a fading picture of fat Ed Furlong, indicating a strong chance they failed

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759035)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 9:45 PM
Author: floppy shitlib

lmao just rip off back to the future?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759056)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:21 PM
Author: Vermilion slap-happy rigpig trailer park

*undercut haircut fades from picture as T-1000 closes the gap*

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761055)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:29 PM
Author: ivory market



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761078)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: galvanic parlor



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763081)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: plum low-t round eye

im not a phenotype expert like many on the board...

but Furlong, along with for example Wiley Wiggins from Dazed and Confused...

is an example of this weird type of guy who comes across as cool and charasmatic at about age 13 and then somehow devolves into a wretched loser by the time they are 18, never to return



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763150)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:29 PM
Author: hyperactive vigorous potus

Eddie furlong's whiny bitch acting almost singlehandedly ruined T2. The fact that it's still watchable is a testament to how freaking sweet the rest of the movie is.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763528)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:10 PM
Author: offensive den

I’m gay

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759164)



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Date: June 18th, 2024 10:30 PM
Author: Idiotic Indian Lodge Tank

The story is that they were so far behind in resources at that point in the future that recycling scraps like arnold was the best they could do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759196)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 8:35 AM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

Arnold had a ton of info about the T1000 downloaded into his cyborg head already except for ways to kill it. more plausible would be that it showed up out of nowhere.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47759994)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:06 PM
Author: 180 azn home

When the robots have mastered time travel, wtf does it matter if you kill a T1000 or not? They'll just send another T1000 and then another until you die

As someone said, their only hope was go off the grid until judgement day



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761031)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

another plot hole is that time travel makes no fucking sense

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761057)



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Date: December 24th, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Violent thriller stead turdskin



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#49538001)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: Nubile windowlicker

In the first movie, the time travel grid was smashed so no one else could go through. That concept was abandoned by the second movie.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761404)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: galvanic parlor

The second movie actually takes place before the first

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763086)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

movies that take place only slightly before/after the current year the movie was made are annoying. Road Trip is another example of that and it's confusing that it takes place in like 1996 instead of 1999.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763094)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 2:40 PM
Author: galvanic parlor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010:_The_Year_We_Make_Contact

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763774)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

nah that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking like Road Trip where they're just a few years off so mailing VHS tapes even tho it was made in 2000.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47766102)



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Date: June 19th, 2024 5:11 PM
Author: slate marvelous keepsake machete

They didn’t even have a moments peace until the freezing episode though. And that was well into the movie.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47761396)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 1:43 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

they had like an entire day at the beaner gun runner guy's mexican ranch then instead of coming up with a strategy, Sarah runs off like an idiot to kill Dyson then they parlay that into blowing up Cyberdyne

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47763589)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: plum low-t round eye

the strategy was to run and hide. arnold says this over and over. but then sarah tards out and john decides they're going to go back into danger to save her.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764266)



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Date: June 20th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

Arnold and all the terminators are kind of stupid. the dood in T1 says this out loud

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47764288)



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Date: June 21st, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: Mississippi Protein Ad (No Future)



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#47766116)



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Date: September 1st, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: wonderful garnet trump supporter legend

then why did they even fuck around with cyberdyne? seems like a waste of effort?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5542389&forum_id=2#50109169)