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Why is daycare so expensive?
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:15 PM Author: Stimulating rigor The employees seem to make minimum wage or slightly more. There aren’t excessive admin costs yet daycare can run more than $2K per month per child. How? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532737) |
Date: January 8th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: aquamarine range Because it can. What are you gonna do, lol? Actually watch your own kids? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532743) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: brilliant temple circlehead (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532840) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 11:48 PM Author: Excitant Harsh Step-uncle's House Persian (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534462) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Maniacal Center Daycare is a steal compared to neighborhood babysitters -- some of whom may want $25-$30 per hour. So a 5 hour night out to go to a work event or whatever can cost $150 on top of food and drinks and whatever. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532772) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: Racy Corn Cake Lmfao, never change Disco. Btw, the going rate for sitters in the woodlands is only $20. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532882) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Crystalline vivacious dopamine potus He has 4 kids and they were all raised by a fat dad with no discipline who randomly takes off on solo vacations so of course they are more difficult to watch than normal kids. $30 per hour is a steal. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536747) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Buff misanthropic clown indirect expression First youre underestimating the admin costs for reputable safe and clean programs. Staffing like with everyhting is difficilt and if u sont want tatooed freaks or nigs u need to have a stable of nonzomboid womenz.
Second you can in fact get cheap child care and its cheap for a reason. Get a ukro nanny off craigslist. They will rob you blind and neglect your kid. But i have a nanny cam you faggoly exclaim. Geeat! U get to see the video of these bitches low key abusing your kid (low key as in only debatably abuse per the law but terrible treatment by normal white person non slav standards). |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: green appetizing state 25 kids at 2k a month = $600,000 gross
5 full time employees each making $38k = $190,000
Rent of $10k a month = $120,000
Supplies, diapers, food, furniture, toys, furnishings, etc. = $5,000/mo = $60,000
regulatory compliance of $500/mo = $6,000
= $224,000 net before taxes
post taxes (of 38% incl fed and state) = $138,880 for owner or less than $70k each if dual owned |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: adventurous half-breed casino the mere thought of someone thinking about little kids in terms of profits or profit margins is so horrifying that any self respecting man should tell his wife either you stay home and watch them or i do. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532862) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:50 PM Author: chocolate galvanic hall pozpig employees making 38k cost an employer more than 38k (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532934) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:52 PM Author: green appetizing state Yea and I forgot about the liability insurance. The real net for the owner is like $15,000 a year. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532942) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: alcoholic concupiscible parlor wrinkle (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533987) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:22 PM Author: Floppy magical station liquid oxygen good post and attempt to flesh this out. agree that liability insurance and regulatory fees are meaningful but i'm also surprised at how expensive daycares are, there must still be real profit. have some experience with an "unlicensed daycare" that via poor supervision resulted in a serious child injury (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533040) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: Pontificating stirring pit shitlib they also may need a state licence and are inspected by various agencies to ensure they are in compliance with licence regulations and requirements. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533357) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: Twinkling institution DAY CARE! AH-HA-AHHHH~ FIGHTER OF THE NIGHT CARE! AH-HA-AHHHH~ CHAMPION OF THE SUN AND NEGLECTED KIDS FOR EVERY LUMPENBOURGEOISIE PARENTS EVERYWHERE |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:45 PM Author: Arousing french puppy lodge (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532912) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: talking cruel-hearted spot Because insurance rates for daycares are insane (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532844) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: adventurous half-breed casino because someone else has to watch your dumbass kid for you and no one actually gives a fuck about random kids these days so you gotta pay. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532854) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:36 PM Author: Jet box office the kikes don't want u to have kidz (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532859) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: Racy Corn Cake Regulations - minimum employees mainly Also, insurance. |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:38 PM Author: Racy Corn Cake Oh now you’re a Kamala voter (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532871) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:42 PM Author: Submissive iridescent national main people it's pretty simple arithmetic. high minimum wages, high rent for a facility, high liability insurance, profit to owner. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532900) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: Maniacal Center Yes. Owners don't work in their daycares people. Owners pay someone like $60,000 to run the daycare and then they run across town 15 minutes away and open up another one. It's not uncommon for daycare people to have like 10-15 facilities. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532907) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:12 PM Author: Submissive iridescent national main people yeah i honestly think it's a relatively low margin business and the proof is you don't have anyone trying to undercut the market.
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: spectacular tanning salon telephone supply and demand (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532905) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:44 PM Author: Arousing french puppy lodge Because there is literally nothing worse than taking care of some other asshole's kids (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532909) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:46 PM Author: Soggy Yarmulke Hospital titcr (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532916) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: green appetizing state lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533338) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: trip bull headed internal respiration laser beams The worst part is the daycare owner can just "take off" without ample notice and leave you scrambling to find another day care or sitter. Also, if they suspect your kid has a cold, they'll summon you to pick your kid up and tell you not to come back for at least a week (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532947) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:02 PM Author: Beady-eyed Parlour people want to pay money to have ebonics speaking slampig prole chicks blow vape smoke into their kids faces because they're intelligent and high status contributors to society (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532969) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:03 PM Author: lsd The concept of anybody other than your wife taking care of your children is insane to me. I really don't understand how any men allow this to happen. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532971) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: fragrant fanboi forum In NY, the owner told me they get paid $50 per day for 3k (free NYC program). So they gotta make up the cost with everyone else. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48532976) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:15 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria Probably because everyone has to share the cost of lawyers making insane incomes while contributing nothing (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533010) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: faglord (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533071) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 6:56 PM Author: House-broken Odious Stag Film Partner (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533316) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:49 PM Author: primrose house legend (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536778) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: faglord LJL if you send your kid to daycare (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533072) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) fucktarded cumskins whining about CoL,
ONLY ABSOLUTE INCOMES MATTER
WHY TOO POOR TO NOT BUY A 2000 DOLLA GPU
DURR DURR |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: green appetizing state lol what? is this AI? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533374) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) ONLY ABSOLUTE INCOMES MATTER
650,000 SALARY IS REALLY WORTH 650,000 DURR DURR
Y YOU NO BUY TWO THOUSAND DOLLA GPU YOU SO POOR LOLOLOL |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: green appetizing state weird but okay (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533391) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) NYUUG is so POOR because he doesnt make 650,000! LOLOLOLOL@ HIM (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533398) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:27 PM Author: green appetizing state How much money do you make? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533424) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) i make enough such that i have literally not made a single thread whining about cost of living despite a 20 year posting career
...whilst cumskins brag about 650,000 incomes but make trillions of threads whining about cost of living
odd case. |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:29 PM Author: green appetizing state 180
cumskins are done here imo |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 11:15 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534370) |
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Date: August 26th, 2026 7:00 PM Author: nyuug (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#50095120) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: Purple yapping ticket booth boltzmann It's called the Baumol effect. As an economy grows through increased productivity, an ever-increasing share of national income will be spent on low-productivity sectors (like child care, health care, elder care, etc.). (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533454) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 8:52 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria I just read the wikipedia article on this since I never heard of it and it sounds interesting.
The article seems to suggest/assume without explanation that the effect is inevitable; an economic law, because high-productivity sectors offer naturally higher wages and poach from the low productivity sectors until the wages balance.
This doesn't seem inevitable at all -- people competing for lower productivity roles aren't fluidly transferable to higher productivity sectors. The effect seems entirely attributable to subsidy and culture-wide "lifestyle creep" social-safety-net politics. |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:21 PM Author: Soggy Yarmulke Hospital its like once your a drop of water in communication with any other water your hydraulically connected.... in my head super wealthy geting richer will make the poorest doing the poorest stuff also get richer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48533866) |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: Purple yapping ticket booth boltzmann I think it's helpful to think less in terms of individual workers (who of course might not be able to personally change careers, depending on their experience, skill and aptitude) and more in terms of generations of workers.
It's hard to imagine any appreciable number of workers born in 2010 accepting pre-industrial revolution wages for, e.g., childcare (say $20/day in 2025 money). Even with no safety net, they'll just commit crimes or whatever. There'd be no point in working for $6000 to $7000 per year. Nobody would do it. |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 10:01 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria "even with no safety net, they'll just commit crimes or whatever" is not really a serious analysis. If there was no safety net the price of unskilled subsistence work such as watching/feeding a child would normalize at a level where unskilled people either do it for the market wage or it gets done for subsistence The price of necessities of life obviously just reacts to the price of labor performed by people just skilled enough to survive, which is one reason this effect is observable. If the price of such labor wasn't artificially juiced, costs wouldn't be commensurately inflated |
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Date: January 8th, 2025 10:10 PM Author: Purple yapping ticket booth boltzmann You're not understanding the point. The market wage for low-productivity labor is affected by the market wage for high-productivity labor. That's the Baumol effect. You're postulating that for some unspecified reason there is a permanent category of people who can do only low-productivity labor and this segregation persists across generations, but there's just no reason to think that's true. There's no reason think that if childcare paid 1820s wages in 2025, and had never paid more than 1820s wages, that there would be any appreciable number of people who would still be only able to work childcare, despite having generations to adapt. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48534116) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria I think it's self evident there is, today, an appreciable number of people who are only able to work childcare on their best day (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536525) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:22 PM Author: Purple yapping ticket booth boltzmann No, that's completely wrong. The people you're talking about could work in a factory making 2x 1820s wages, e.g. (such factory jobs do not of course exist in the U.S. because the Baumol effect is real).
The sense I'm getting is that you're too dumb to have this conversation. You're not able to see everything that changes if you modify one variable. |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria No, many people with comparatively lavish access to funds today could not and would not work in a factory anywhere -- a condition that is both the cause and effect of their continued survival being subsidized by others. This is self evident to anyone in the lower class which you clearly are not and I'm happy for you. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536715) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 2:56 PM Author: Crystalline vivacious dopamine potus I really don’t get the xo anti daycare take.
It is fine for kids in rich white/asian areas. The Jamaican and Dominican nannies people get in NYC are awful and leave screens on all day, talk on the phone constantly, etc.
Your kid will be a weirdo/outcast when they start preschool if you don’t socialize them before. Which means not only having a SAHM but paying for stupid classes and shit on top of that. It’s not 1950 or even 1980 anymore. Daycare is totally normal if you are an UMC city dweller.
I guess in poor areas there are some totally shit daycares that are staffed with trashy people and who have prole kids but that’s definitely not the case in Manhattan, Boston, DC, or some other cities I’ve lived in. |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: angry internet-worthy sneaky criminal school cafeteria Preschool outcast tp (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48536887) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: cracking resort Preschool mean girls asking 3yo weirdo "Did you EVEN go to day care??" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5660997&forum_id=2#48537374) |
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Date: January 9th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: Mauve dilemma gaming laptop It honestly seems like a good business to run because your customer acquisition cost is like 0 if you do a good job.
Like you just need good staff and a clean facility and you'll have a 2 year waitlist for kids here.
Also, it seems like daycare are pretty quick to kick people out. So you can really make your daycare a rich / popular clique and then get even more demand and charge even more $$$. |