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if a large-scale draft were enacted, it'd be Ukraine style
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:14 AM Author: narrow-minded brunch half-breed 40-year-olds, then 30/50-year-olds, then the zoomers and below (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036105) |
Date: July 31st, 2026 6:17 AM Author: internet-worthy digit ratio menage people wouldnt even bother burning their draft cards. they would just crumple them up and throw them away in greasy burger king bags. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036106) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:27 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant the draft only works in ukraine because the great majority of their draftees are compliant. americans wouldn't just be noncompliant; they'd take sadistic glee in catching and tormenting the draft officers cartel-style. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036108) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:33 AM Author: Canary frum stag film kitty cat Draft dodgers are famously pugilistic (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036110) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:38 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant draft-dodging rates would be 85-90% this time, as opposed to the 15% in vietnam. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036111) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:41 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036114) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:25 AM Author: Microsoft Product Anomalies (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036141) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 8:12 PM Author: scarlet histrionic area doctorate "the draft only works in ukraine because the great majority of their draftees are compliant"
This is fundamentally untrue. For one, more than half the population left the country entirely. That includes anyone with the money to do so. Pretty much all of those Ukrainian politicians you see? Their kids are abroad.
The only reason it "works" is that the people still there are stuck. It put "works" in quotes because Ukraine has a huge manpower shortage. Russia also hasn't used conscripts in the war in significant numbers.
Bringing this back to the US - the country is wealthier which means that pretty much everyone that could would also leave and that is a larger segment of the population. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50037897) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:40 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) If we're talking about Iran or some other bullshit imperial war yeah no one would show up except some older millennials and gen xers.
If we were in a defensive land war like Ukraine there would be traffic jams for hundreds of miles from armed volunteers rushing to the front line. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036113) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:43 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant the border patrol militias of the 00's managed to recruit like 400 guys total across several groups and then fell apart. americans don't actually care IRL about foreign invaders. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036116) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:51 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) The fact that these groups did form to protect against illegal immigrants and you're still conflating that with a military invasion proves how much enthusiasm America has for protecting itself. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036122) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:51 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant invasion and mass-migration are functionally identical over time. it's the same thing. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036123) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:59 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) Can't have this debate again with another Gov Abbot ARE INVASIONmo. If you can't see the difference how an ordinary citizen would react to individuals trying to sneak in and then blend in versus a large hostile group taking things by force, that's on you. I know you can and you're being obtuse. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036127) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:03 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant i'm saying it doesn't matter, because the theoretical event of 'invasion' is not how an invasion would actually play out. the lack of response to the actual reality of modern invasion is evidence of revealed preference. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036129) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:05 AM Author: narrow-minded brunch half-breed The biggest "invasion" we've seen is the cumulative effect of immigration on our demographics, spirituality, and way of life. Immigration without assimilation is invasion. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036132) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:10 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) It does matter. An ordinary citizen can't defend against immigration because they don't have the power to depoet people and they're less likely to actually shoot some desperate unarmed beaner family trying to come pick strawberries. However they would be willing to shoot at a group of armed people coming to do their family and their neighbors active harm.
Whether the "invasion" of illegals is ultimately just as destructive doesn't change that. It's like how vigilante groups aren't forming to police ghettos but people WILL shoot a dindu who tries to invade their home. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036134) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:15 AM Author: narrow-minded brunch half-breed I consider it analogous to extortion vs. robbery: Large-scale immigration over a relatively short period of time is like extorting someone whereas a literal 50k+ invasion of illegals is like robbery. They're both very serious felonies that are often punished similarly depending on the specific facts and evidence. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036138) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:23 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) It's more like white collar crime versus armed robbery.
If your bank steals $100 from you you're not going go to the local branch and start shooting. Not of the people working there are individually responsible for the theft and they're unarmed and not a imminent physical threat that justifies lethal force.
But if someone entered your home and demanded $100 you would shoot them. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036139) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 6:58 AM Author: narrow-minded brunch half-breed the USA doesn't actually *need* to defend itself militarily at home -- our geography mostly takes care of that for us. It'd be nearly impossible to launch any sort of large-scale invasion and ground campaign. Our biggest risk is asymmetric warfare, and the consequences are already playing out. In the herds of illegals, there are probably Chinese, Iranian, and Russian sleeper cells. We already know about the Israeli ones. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036126) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:04 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) That's fine. I'm just pointing out that comparing Ukraine drafting people for it's defense versus us drafting people to die overseas for Israel is very different, and how much enthusiasm someone would have to participate is night and day. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036131) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:08 AM Author: Ungodly transparent immigrant it's a factor, but there was also a lot more cultural comfort with mass 'conscription' in general, which had been ongoing since the early soviet era. their current situation is more like an extension of what they were already doing rather than something new. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036133) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:11 AM Author: narrow-minded brunch half-breed what if a poorly-timed energy crisis were just around the corner? I bet military barracks haves oil in winter. What's the Cushing crude oil inventory at right now? 18M barrels? Isn't the Strait of Hormuz still closed? Aren't the Houthis attacking the Saudi shipping channels through the Red Sea? Good thing we've got that 714-million-barrel strategic petroleum reserve. Wait, it's only at 43% capacity? At least there isn't a mid-term election coming up to entice politicians to dump more SPR oil to keep gas prices below $5/gal nationally (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036135) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:14 AM Author: jet-lagged ticket booth gunner The most likely scenario for a draft/conscription is a civil war. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036136) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 8:16 PM Author: scarlet histrionic area doctorate "If we're talking about Iran or some other bullshit imperial war" - it would be 100% this.
"If we were in a defensive land war like Ukraine" - DESCRIBE how that would happen. It is basically not plausible. Ukraine is basically the equivalent of Canada deciding to become allies with China and expressing the desire to station Chinese troops there and the US invading as a result. I'm having trouble coming up with a similar hypo for the US. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50037902) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 7:15 AM Author: cracking bright plaza America is literally Rome and you can't make the citizens fight anymore, you get the tryhards of course but we'd round up the browns for any major excursion, luckily for us an invasion of north america is too retarded to even be considered by anyone (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50036137) |
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Date: July 31st, 2026 8:16 PM Author: scarlet histrionic area doctorate (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50037903) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 7:29 AM Author: gunneratttt (gunneratttt) (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50038595) |
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Date: August 1st, 2026 8:36 AM Author: talented fantasy-prone rigor office Why did Ukraine doing it like that (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50038659) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:17 PM Author: scarlet histrionic area doctorate As opposed to what? The country is dying out and this is probably the best way to make the meat last. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50041745) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:18 PM Author: faglord Why isn't it like my movies, it should be like Band of Brothers imo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50041747) |
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:19 PM Author: scarlet histrionic area doctorate ljl
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Date: August 2nd, 2026 9:25 PM Author: blue field Ukraine is mostly Russian goyim, and killing off the native pop. to replace them with 3rd-worlders is not seen as any sort of downside. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887910&forum_id=2#50041754) |