I do not believe any of them. I remember what we were like in high school. guys would hump a fire hydrant if they thought it had a hole. There is *zero* chance that some halfway attractive girl was offering you anything remotely sexual in HS and you were somehow too oblivious to notice it.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047090)

The difference is I don't go around bragging about it because it is profoundly embarrassing that I didn't act on those opportunities. Not some kind of "flex"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047099)

First day of 9th grade I sat down in science class and an Italian chick with long curly dark hair and blue-green eyes chose to sit next to me and was staring at me and being flirtatious. I didn't know how to handle it and freaked out.

It's not like oh pussy was on the table and all I had to do was slip it in. Far from it. But I had no idea how to 'pick up' on signals and pass it back to them.

For context I am incredibly Tall

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047105)

I have lots of these.

Another girl that was a senior when I was a freshman and she had a study hall with my friend and she started calling me 'the one' ...I didn't really understand what this meant. She invited me on a date and I declined. Last day of class she offered to drive me home but we stopped at the waterfront park by my house. We ended up on a bench and she randomly put her head in my lap. She looked up and said we could go to her house instead of mine. I told her I had to get home and couldn't be late. I went to a movie with her about a week later and I made zero moves on her. She stopped talking to me. In retrospect this one was really bad.

I had another girl that was a couple years younger and she would drop off presents for me like baked goods. I remember answering the door and she had a black dress on like an adult. I actually asked it was her mom's. She gave me fudge which I've never liked. I took the fudge and said thanks and have a nice night. She stalked me for a minute. She and a friend broke into my house and stole all of my baby/kid pictures. I didn't know this until her friend said she had pictures of me all over her wall. I thought she was pretty hot, skinny and nice boobs but she was two classes below me and that was too many to consider hooking up. Similar issue with the girls above, they were from the wrong clique at school and I was basically only allowed to date in that pool. Fucking retarded.

I have lots of these. I partially blame my Catholic upbringing. Lots of guilt associated with a random hookups. After I got married I think every single one of my wife's good friends has made a pass at me, some more overt than others. A few have asked about a threesome (mind you 20 years ago) and my wife is not like that at all. She's kissed some of her friends in front of me, but any next step is strictly off the table. But I can see now how that would confuse her fiends. My wife is insanely jealous.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047155)

You win some you lose some. But this chick wasn't that attractive it was no big loss. I hardly knew her. The only thing I remember about her is that her favorite song was Tarantula by Pendulum and that she cheated on an Indian guy with me. After we had sex she said, "See, now you know what my boyfriend has to put up with." I thought it was an odd comment but did not investigate further.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047195)

My first girlfriend as a freshman went to another school. The very first night I called her she went into some explicit sex talk right off. She said it was too hot in her room and she was using an ice a cube to cool off. She asked if that was normal. I said sure. Next she said what if it's on my pussy. Wow. She also used phrases like pearl necklace which I didn't even know. I just pretended given I knew it must be a sex thing. This was like 1995 and I hadn't even seen Internet porn. I met her at the beach but she lived almost an hour from me. I went to her house once to have sex but I bitched out. I actually thought even with a condom she might get pregnant. Fucking moron. I ate her pussy and she offered to pose for me bent over naked and shit. She was by far biggest freak I've ever met. How does a 14 year old girl know that shit?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047239)

How come you didn't just become a raver in Northern England? It seemed like such a good time for white trash. You could have gone to raves and done molly and ketamine and fucked chicks in council estates. You really could have had a lot of easy lays just by going with the scene. The whole culture back then was totally degenerate. Imagine being that crazy guy in The Prodigy. He was doing drugs and fuckin nonstop. That could have been you.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047299)

Cosmo, VC Andrews books

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047647)

are there people who just make this shit up in their heads or retroactively exaggerate memories? sure, of course. but it doesn't mean that everyone is or that it isn't a real thing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047125)

For a long time I had such low self esteem that couldn't believe that she liked me.

At some point she decided she was going to go off to Europe for her freshman year of college. After that I didn't see any point in starting anything with her because there's no way a long-distance relationship with her would survive, she was just too flighty.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047200)

failing to capitalize on these opportunities happens for different reasons.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047317)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047351)

So people probably aren’t saying hot girls threw them at them. Average/slightly above average did and those chicks to a 40 year old man are hot now but to a dude her age she might not be cream of the crop.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047394)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50047406)

I think its almost a universal experience for guys aged 12-20 to be shy, scared confused little gay boys. Girls that age are often much more flirtatious and into pursuing guys.

For example, I remember there was this new girl in school who was pretty hot and she would flirt with me all the time. She ended up being the hottest girl in school. I knew that she liked me, but I did nothing because she wasn't (at the time) one of the popular girls, and I was clearly in love with this other popular girl and obviously going to marry her, so I couldn't be seen slumming it with this new girl (who eventually became popular and never gave me the time of day).

I remember a friend had a girlfriend in high school and she basically got on the bed and was like "come here", and he just left the house because he was scared. I think this was pretty common.

Similarly, I look back to late high school and college and there were all these girls signaling me to make a move on them - and i just didn't. And then like a month later, I would write them some gay love letter and they'd be like "you're a loser."

I think for me and a lot of the guys telling these stories, we just fundamentally misunderstood how girls thought. Movies sort of teach you that they like to fall in love with their best friend after years of being pursued romantically, but really, they're attraction to you sort of peaks after 2 hours of talking to you.

More to the point, if they go out of their way to signal to you to kiss them, and you don't, then it's over. It's very different from guys who just want a girl more and more after being rejected.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50048000)

A Scumbag enjoys the hunt and gets laid. The Loser prefers the immaculate retrospective in which the Woman performs every act, bears every risk and then disappears, leaving him with a medal for attractiveness and no vulgar evidence that anything happened. They do not remember sex. They remember being Chosen. It’s like OCI. They revel in being validated and in accomplishing Nothing so that they can get a job where they do Nothing just like they revel in not getting laid.

Losers itt are effeminate and therefore revel in the feeling — real or imagined — of being Chosen. The Scumbag wants the pussy. The Scumbag may be vulgar, selfish and doomed, but he enters the world as it exists. He risks looking foolish. He gets rejected. He learns timing, appetite, deceit, tenderness, danger. The Loser remains behind glass. The Scumbag would rather have the experience and lose the myth. The Loser would rather keep the myth and Lose everything imho.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5889794&forum_id=2#50048693)