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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:12 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker sure, there is token resistance among people with No Power, like redditors against Flock cameras. but overall, everyone just acquiesced to the Eye of Big Brother like NBD. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050206) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:05 PM Author: bossy big elastic band theater We live in a nightmare combo of Brave New World and 1984 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050454) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:45 PM Author: narrow-minded white principal's office (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050811) |
Date: August 6th, 2026 7:13 PM Author: pea-brained state Oh no I was recorded driving (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050208) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 PM Author: cordovan garrison (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051672) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: French weed whacker that's how things always happen (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050209) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:14 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker what does it all mean Consuela (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050211) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:25 PM Author: French weed whacker it means that the media creates stories to feed to people, and the people react to it. if the media does not cover the story or tell them how to react to it (either pro or con), it pretty much doesn't exist
all the world's a stage (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050234) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker you are a wise man (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050235) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: jade messiness property it ended with covid (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050223) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:20 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050224) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM Author: jet-lagged parlour Voters are 180 (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050238) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:26 PM Author: appetizing scourge upon the earth Snowden accomplished nothing (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050239) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:30 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker he didn't realize how apathetic proles are to things that aren't in their immediate interest. he grew up around a bunch of feds and officers and probably thought that was how most people were. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050246) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:32 PM Author: French weed whacker (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050252) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:07 PM Author: talented green university idiot The NSA has never been accused of violating anyone's rights (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050741) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:51 PM Author: nighttime plaza sandwich Police are going to start deploying drones ahead of officers to 911 calls. It's a short step away from having them up over cities 24/7. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050293) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:53 PM Author: Ultramarine flickering chapel half-breed We need cameras and drones everywhere and AI agents constantly searching them for violations and auto deploying police. This is what is going to really help us get to a new level of Utopia is that before there weren't enough humans to scan ever second of every video feed. Now AI can do it tirelessly. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050296) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:57 PM Author: nighttime plaza sandwich Next phase would be aerostats parked over every city with these massive cameras that can essentially watch an entire downtown. AI will process feeds for analysts at Fusion Centers. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050303) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:04 PM Author: Ultramarine flickering chapel half-breed Couldn’t support this more as long as they are careful to ensure black and brown bodies dont get unfair incarceration outcomes (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050321) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:18 PM Author: nighttime plaza sandwich Yeah unfair. The algorithm can be programmed to ensure historically disserviced communities are pixilated. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050349) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM Author: electric greedy base my chats with claude, kimi, and chatgpt are all private
i did come across some synthetic propaganda yesterday how flock helped a local neighborhood but didn’t fall for it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050307) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker what do you mean they are "private" lol (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050309) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:01 PM Author: electric greedy base i click the private link so i know no one knows that is me sharing my inner thoughts with a large language model who is responding to me as if it a human (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050311) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:41 PM Author: Racy Idea He Suggested Corn Cake Expert move, computerman. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050690) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 7:59 PM Author: 180 garnet karate Mass surveillance has been with us for at least 30 years (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050308) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:07 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker and? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050325) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:10 PM Author: 180 garnet karate IDK m drinking I guess I thought there was a recency implication in your op due to flock reference
Anyway, it's too late, we're cooked (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050330) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:52 PM Author: cerebral violet stock car rigpig (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050575) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:53 PM Author: cracking bat-shit-crazy ladyboy sneaky criminal Sure.
But in the past it was almost exclusively the domain of feds. And they mostly only busted it out on reasonably legitimate enemies of the state. And maybe they did some parallel construction stuff on serious crimes that don't really pertain to national security.
Now it's bored state cops doing dragnets on people doing border runs to states where weed is legal. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050432) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:00 PM Author: 180 garnet karate It's backwoods sheriff's deputies but yeah
And that why you can't allow it even for a "good reason" by the "good guys"
Fuck it, maybe after civilization collapses we'll build a better one. Should only take like 3k years this time (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050591) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:03 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050597) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:05 PM Author: 180 garnet karate We're killing the wrong animals (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050602) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:08 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker we're next champ (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050609) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM Author: Dull Crusty Twinkling Uncleanness Human birth rate is decreasing why are we shocked chimps and whales also don't wanna fuck? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050687) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 8:55 PM Author: talented green university idiot So what? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050435) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:02 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker that's my point I guess, no one Cares. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050446) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:49 PM Author: talented green university idiot Why should we? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050569) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 9:50 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker you're Begging the Question (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050571) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:24 PM Author: talented green university idiot Should be an easy question. You low IQ? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050649) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:25 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker no I have a Philosophy degree. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050653) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:29 PM Author: talented green university idiot Ok then, freak the fuck out about government surveillance. Don't let me stop you (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050664) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM Author: Iridescent death wish boistinker great subthread (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050674) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: Obsidian Windowlicker you are posing the question "why should anyone care" as if this is a question I am invested in or have the answer to. all I know is that Americans generally are opposed to government and civic overreach, but in this case, they ceded privacy with little fanfare. as a Liberal Nihilist I lend no weight to any moral conviction in the matter and maintain a supine neutrality. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050679) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:43 PM Author: talented green university idiot mass surveillance seems like it just happened without much resistance (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050696) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:04 AM Author: Charismatic Trump Supporter (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050834) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM Author: Hot Market it's way too useful to too many powerful interests to stop. it's a good illustration of how 'the system' actually works. when something is important to the system, it is placed outside of the 'democratic process' entirely, and that's that. there is no corrective mechanism for this. no such check and/or balance exists. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050670) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:31 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050671) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:32 PM Author: talented green university idiot Why don't they use it against Iran? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050672) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:34 PM Author: Hot Market i assume that all kinds of surveillance tools are being used against iran, but the US probably lacks 'local staging' options for strikes against such targets, which means that longer-range munitions are depleted when such targets are hit. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050676) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:35 PM Author: talented green university idiot If we used mass surveillance against Iran we'd win for sure. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050680) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:38 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer there's a lot of stuff that works like you described (untouchable because it's invaluable to The Machine). people don't like to recognize or admit this because it makes it so there's no human beings they can blame and it's also boring and i guess blackpilling
the older i get, the clearer it becomes to me that most of what happens in the world is outside of human design. there's no actual human mechanism to stop the inexorable advance and consolidation of technology and capital. but then eventually, the system will break down and collapse anyway, like it always has throughout history, without humans deliberately doing anything to bring that about, either (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050686) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:46 PM Author: Hot Market 'blame' would be best apportioned against those with the most power and cash, in line with the old maxim 'to whom much is given, much is expected.' but you can understand why a media and culture shaped around the worship and protection of power would suppress that kind of message. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050700) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 10:54 PM Author: controlling a virtual character on a computer the point is that no one can be blamed, though. no one has even close to enough power to actually change the system in any consequential way. it's literally impossible. to speak of "blame" at all is incoherent
the system cannot be changed or "reformed" from within. it could only ever be destroyed by an outside force (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050719) |
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Date: August 6th, 2026 11:00 PM Author: Hot Market existential blame ("you did this") is silly, but localized blame ("you profited/took advantage of/etc.") is perfectly apt in many cases. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050733) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 2:05 PM Author: electric greedy base (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051778) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:38 AM Author: Swashbuckling dysfunction ratface I went to a lake weekend with a group, one of the girls in nashville married a firefighter there
He said during the nfl draft in like 2018 in nashville or whatever, they had some marathon in the morning. They had on camera some guy dropping a bag off next to a trash can near crowds.
This dude was working special ops on some command center with like big screens all over the wall. He said they saw the guy on camera drop it off. They within minutes were able to pick him out (general description, clothing) amongst tens of thousands of people, he downtown at that moment. And get cops on him. . He thought it was crazy. Imagine that shit now with AI
Turns out the dude was some normal dude who put his bag down before the race (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050969) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:36 AM Author: talented green university idiot Scary (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051362) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 10:41 AM Author: laughsome bipolar kitty cat crotch You are a fascist (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051370) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 1:40 AM Author: Citrine school cafeteria as ever, rednecks are our only hope and are rising to the challenge, king's mountain lives on (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50050974) |
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Date: August 7th, 2026 12:44 PM Author: cracking bat-shit-crazy ladyboy sneaky criminal Are they though? These cameras are fucking everywhere now, including rural as fuck areas where traffic signs are frequently used for target practice.
Pretty much all of the occasions of people fucking with these cameras that I've heard of are in metro areas (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5890197&forum_id=2#50051591) |