Date: September 13th, 2026 5:29 PM Author: Comical jewess personal credit line
To the idiots saying “ you can’t do anything” read a book about the nuclear proliferation. There’s no reason humans have to march down some suicidal path because a couple of dorks who’ve never touched a vagina get all excited over this shitty tech. If it can’t be controlled then make it illegal and bomb the shit out of any data center on the planet.
Date: September 13th, 2026 5:36 PM Author: hateful nursing home
great point. the similarity among ease of access to the component parts, uniqueness of capital infrastructure necessary for production, profit motive for creation, and broad international collaboration regime necessary for meaningful enforcement makes these two concepts perfectly comparable.
Date: September 13th, 2026 5:42 PM Author: Comical jewess personal credit line
Correct. The number of countries that could amass the necessary components, talent and data centers to pull off any serious AI is way smaller than those could build nuclear weapons.
Date: September 13th, 2026 5:59 PM Author: Comical jewess personal credit line
It’s shitty in that it’s extremely costly (1.5 trillion invested) with questionable future benefits and massive potential downside. It’s the wet dream of every chud loser who could care less about the dignity of human life.
Date: September 13th, 2026 6:00 PM Author: Awkward rigpig
if you actually tried to make a bomb using AI, you'd fail to take propery safety precautions and blow yourself the fuck up. This isn't even up for debate. Same goes for anything else involving lab chemicals. If you never worked in a lab before, you'll be careless about your own personal safety. Claude doesn't know whether you've got an open can of acetone in your doublewide, so it's not gonna warn you about the vapors
Date: September 13th, 2026 8:05 PM Author: Jet-lagged menage boiling water
You, a lawyer who has never added any value to the world (and has certainly never demonstrated any investment acumen), thinks he knows better than the collective intelligence of all investors on earth what the expected net value of this technology is. Ljl.
I am guessing that by "dignity of human life" you mean the fact that it will automate tasks (specifically your shitty parasitic rent-seeking legal racket that is a net negative to society). As if humanity hasnt suffered through countless haves of automation i. The past 400 years and as if these waves of automation and labor-saving trchnology havent massively improved standard of living while opening the door for new industries and jobs which had previously been onconceivable.
Railroad buildout in the 19th century ended up costing tens of trillions in purchasing power parity modern dollars. Ended up costing millions of jobs as many local cottage industries were outcompteted by national manufacturing centers. Unambiguously improved human life. Btw, nearly the entire passenger railroad industry in the US was destroyed by govt regulation between 1900 and 1920 or so.
Date: September 14th, 2026 11:58 AM Author: Comical jewess personal credit line
"collective intelligence of all investors on earth what the expected net value of this technology is."
laughable argument. We've had crashes and asset bubbles before. FOMO, gambling are powerful drivers of short-term market trends. I'd also add that profit may come at the expense of massive negative externalities that get passed on to the general public.
"I am guessing that by "dignity of human life" you mean the fact that it will automate tasks (specifically your shitty parasitic rent-seeking legal racket that is a net negative to society). As if humanity hasnt suffered through countless haves of automation i. The past 400 years and as if these waves of automation and labor-saving trchnology havent massively improved standard of living while opening the door for new industries and jobs which had previously been onconceivable."
Have you read Dario Amodei's essay on what post-AGI life might be like? It described a dystopia and that's the best-case/rosy scenario where he's trying to sell AI to the public. Other scenarios include a shitty AI with retarded agents wreaking havoc online or super-intelligent AI killing us. The "upside" isn't worth it. And the people in charge of the tech aren't exactly individuals I would trust with our civilization. They seem pretty content with an anti-democratic techno-feudal future.
Date: September 14th, 2026 12:41 PM Author: Jet-lagged menage boiling water
Lol you are so arrogant and foolish. Yes, bubbles happen, but the idea that you are better at calling a bubble tham the market is what is truly laughable. Bears have predicted 100 of the past 2 crashes. Crashes and bubbles happen, but are rare. The last two big bubbles (dot com and real estate) were actually spot-on in the long run—ecommerce companies like Amazon/ebay ended up transforming large sectors of the eocnomy, and the housing crisis has only gotten worse since 2007. Investors in either houses or dot com stocks at the height of their respective bubbles would be far richer today. Either way "the markets are, on rare occasions, irrationally exuberant" does not make a strong case for them being irrationally exuberant in this instance. Again, naysayers have been calling both housing and the stock market a bubble that was just about to pop for 18 years now. Anyone who listened to them would be living in a cardboard box years ago.
As far as negative externalities, you are just handwaving IMO, due to your dislike of this tech as it threatens you. Social media has been shown to have real negative externalities through extensive research. This labor-saving tech? Not so much. But we are already seeing it accelerate things like vaccine research (the Moderna melanoma vaccine).
"Have you read Dario Amodei's essay on what post-AGI life might be like? It described a dystopia and that's the best-case/rosy scenario where he's trying to sell AI to the public"
Dario is an extremely weird dude, he doesnt actually really try to sell this stuff to the public. He is there for technical management prowess, not PR acumen or even for having a good vision for what the tech can accomplish on a societal level. He is no Steve Jobs, neither a visionary nor a salesman. That is not an indictment of the tech.
You rail against the techno-feudal tech bros, but ironically you align with them on their demands for regulation to protect their fiefdom (and yours). But at the end of the day, the outcomes for this tech wont be driven by the tech bros' vision for it. If this was how tech outcomes were determined, the internet wouldve led to a blossoming of democracy in China and Russia.
Date: September 14th, 2026 5:03 PM Author: French Ape Location
I actually think Dario is much more of a shrewd businessman than many imagine. For example, Anthropic is currently viewed as the leader in AI. By effectively limiting/freezing AI development he conveniently limits his own competition.
Any discussion of a dystopian future is somewhat irrelevant and costless to him. No one is banning what is already out there.
Date: September 14th, 2026 4:43 PM Author: French Ape Location
"We've had crashes and asset bubbles before"
You seem like the type of person that doesn't actually understand the implications of these crashes and asset bubbles. For example, the dotcom bubble and crash didn't stop internet expansion and companies like Google that were 100% internet companies grew exponentially since the crash. The bubble was the result of investors incorrectly assuming that because the internet was exploding that pets.com would be worth billions. But in general, investors were correct that the internet was indeed the next big thing.
Just like right now we might see OpenAI go bankrupt but that doesn't mean that AI "sucks."
Date: September 13th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: Awkward rigpig
notice how no one in China seems tempted to make a WMD, even though we're told it's an oppressive dictatorship with 1.2 billion people living in perpetual slavery.
Date: September 14th, 2026 4:34 PM Author: French Ape Location
1. Nuke proliferation is a huge question mark for humanity. Over the past couple of decades we've seen North Korea, Pakistan and India get the nuke. Israel quietly threatens to use their nukes periodically. Iran may very well get nukes at any moment. We see several conflicts that are ongoing where nukes could absolutely fly at any moment.
2. Notice that we haven't stopped making nukes or gotten rid of our nukes.
3. Unlike nukes, ASI doesn't require some remarkably rare materials to create and spreading it just requires an internet connection and basic hardware that most XOers can easily afford. IOW, if China/Russia created it they could allow anyone to access it and there would be nothing we could do about it.
4. AI development has massive advantages for the corporate world and any countries that moved ahead while we stopped would become the most advanced countries on the planet. It wouldn't even be close. All of the people that currently work on AI advancement wouldn't find other jobs. They would just get on a plane and move.
Date: September 14th, 2026 12:01 PM Author: mischievous temple doctorate
there's no reason for them to do so because you know they're not putting the frontier shit out to the public. we need to bifurcate this - the military needs to take over the frontier and let companies compete on token cost for putting together documents and spreadsheets and deepfakes. the frontier is a pure security/war play, the public has no business with it.
Date: September 14th, 2026 4:20 PM Author: French Ape Location
LMAO, famous last words. But if the US banned it you would find brain drain to countries that still allowed the development of ASI. Russia and China would make these guys billionaires if they pulled it off. And if you think that the key people behind this are somehow super patriotic and wouldn't do that then you're kidding yourself.