Modernity to middle income developing nations is like the white man's fire water was to the Indians. America and most of the developed northern European nations are stable around a fertility rate of 1.5 or so. But countries like Mexico are plummeting.
Date: September 23rd, 2026 11:41 AM Author: hairraiser fuchsia alpha
lol birdshit countries arent stable and euros are propped up by non-birdshit groups and in US latinos still have far higher than birdshit amerishits
and the issue is like with beaner countries the "west" cld have a sudden drop that takes it below 1.0, just look at HS students in HS being all fags and lesbos and not even touching opposite sex, theres no way the TFR isnt going to drop bigly
Date: September 23rd, 2026 3:21 PM Author: Richard Ames
This is why I never understand the people obsessed with fertility rate. It makes sense that it's decreasing now and can stabilize once the population better matches society's needs and carrying capacity. Nature has a way of evening things out IMO. Doesn't even need to be anything evil or whatever.
Date: September 23rd, 2026 3:44 PM Author: boyish disrespectful institution sex offender
"Also, we still live in a growth/ expansion mindset." yeah the kike economy is a ponzi and women (and gays) will need to DRAMATICALLY reduce consumption what a shock
In real terms and on the metrics required to actually bring a human into this world, it's never been cheaper. Calories are easy, free time like women have never experienced. A woman with kids will get free housing if she so chooses.
Obviously this strips the context out of the current human condition, but those assumptions are exactly what needs to be confronted.
Date: September 23rd, 2026 3:13 PM Author: Harsh Comical Feces
ya man. women today have so much free time now they have have been forced to enter the workforce by ((them)) and housing with 30 year mortgages have certainly made having shelter cheaper than ever
What I'm getting at is if you showed somebody all of that coming from eg feudalism ~1300 they would laugh at you. Everything you mentioned is a social a constraint, not physical barriers that hindered population growth in the past.
Doing my genealogy I came across a great grandmother many times great from the Canadian plaines in the early 1800s. She had 7 children, 3 died before they reached 10. She died at 35. Are you going to tell her about high interest rates?
Date: September 23rd, 2026 3:25 PM Author: Richard Ames
I think you are right, but also that there is more than COL stuff going on today. It's the ongoing psychic toll that modernity takes on a parent. It's not just that homes are expensive, it's that you need to jump through hoops to get a home in an area with "good schools" (e.g. not thunderdomes). All while pretending that the issue is the "schools" and not "the people in them." Amongst other things. Of course, you obviously know this.
Your ancestor that you mentioned couldn't even comprehend the idea that she'd have to think about "schools" and likely slave away in some job to avoid neighborhoods tied to the "bad schools."
asian countries have the biggest problem and they still have extremely homogenous, safe societies. serious incentives will have to be created to get more people to have kids when it's not just a natural byproduct of fucking.